Although you probably wont read this for a long time from now, I just wanted to let you know that if you want to know anything about aftermarket parts for your car or what you should focus on first, second, third, etc. I can help. If you have any questions at all just post it up here and I'll let you know. Trust me, I know import cars.

Welcome.. start fresh!

Of course, this entry is quite old now.. I have the I/E taken care of.. decided against the dash kit because of issues with the company I was getting it from... and simply didn't get the body kit.

hey, a fresh start is a good thing!
i looked at a car near my house. i hope you all respect your car more than this guy who was trying to sell it. the dipstic was tarnished, showed about 1 quart of oil, and it smelled funny (burnt oil) when i opened the hood. furthurmore, the hood latch was broke, and the original stainless steel exhaust was not on, but replaced with a rusty pile of junk. an engine mount may have been broken too. he had 174,000 miles on it (about in the middle of a good SHO engine life - this was not a good life for it) and told me he had used it for a daily commuter for a very short trip to work and back for a year. he was asking 2,200 for it. the body was nice, and also the interior, but there is no way he paid 3,500 for it 2 years ago and didn't get ripped off. there is no way i'm buying that car. he might be able to give it to me, but i won't buy it, not even for 700. i think all you people are smarter than this guy. good thing we're not morons like that guy - domestic and import drivers alike. LET'S HEAR IT FOR GOOD CAR CARE!!! i'm in the mood to go car shopping - see ya

Glad all the idiotic comments are gone. I got a new digital camera today, a Kodak Easyshare LS443. It's a 4 gigapixel camera, so expect repainted corvette pics soon. The more i thought about it, the more i wanted it to be the original color. Will make it worth more. I'm looking for (prolly) a DSM or another import to make beautiful. I'm about to sell the camaro to my sister, and the corvette is a fantastic fast as hell car. I want a car with better gas mileage. So I want a 4banger. Any suggestions are welcome.

well i think scott that a 4 banger is nice but how much u want to spend cause i would go with a 3000gt or toyota supra and get a v6 still better gas milage and a whole lot faster. especiall the TT'S and the vr-4 is awd. so u can't go wrong there unless u want to do some roasty launches for fun lol. but i think a good 4banger would be like a 95-97 eagle talon tsi. or just regular talon doesn't have to be tsi but i like awd i live in kansas and we get rain and snow plus i live out in the country so it is better to have awd in case u get pulled off the rod because our roads are dirt and aren't very compact so if u r driving u could just all of a sudden have your back end in the ditch lol that really sux or even your front end but any way the all pack the 2.0 in that time frame a lot of possibilities the tsi is turbocharged. don't know how many psi and they are quite a blast to drive.

kevin do u know if u r gonna supercharge or turbo your engine if u aren't gonna supercharge it. i would get some headers and hi-flo cat and then the exhaust of your choice i think dyno's are pretty good. but yea it will give u the lower sound to your exhaust instead of like a weewhacker sound

or u could be a redneck and get edelbrock exhaust lol

I have a Hyper exhaust.. nice sound to it. I think I am going to hold off on any major engine mods (well, this is the reason I have been holding off) until I see how I like the car in the winter. In FL it didn't matter.. but not sure how it will do in the upstate NY snow. Otherwise I would have thrown in a Toyomoto Stage 2 while I lived in their area. I could still get their tubular headers and just resell them I spose.

As well, I've been thinking about getting rid of the IS next year for something with AWD, or a Supra. I really like Supras and since my daughter is old enough to get into a car seat herself (she will be 5 next month), I can get myself a 2 door.

Kevin, if you get a turbo on your IS you can always turn the boost down during the winter. Real Deal, you can get some great imports for cheap. You can find a Talon TSi for under $5000. You could get a MR2. How much are you looking to spend? Hey SI, did you see the new issue of Sport Compact Car? It has a buyer's guide for MR2s.

Hey a talon isn't an import it is made by dodge.

Correction, Mitsubishi make lots of Dodge vehicles. My uncle's Dodge Avenger says Mitsubishi Motors on his door sticker. Talon, Eclipse, and Laser are the same car, just look a little different. If anyone is interested, the camaro site is up. camaro.ssthookup.com

the corvette site will be up soon at corvette.ssthookup.com

i belive eagle was a joint venture by dodge and mitsubishi. as far as i know, that's why all the cars look like dodges or mitsubishis. the dodge stealth is a 3000gt with dodge badges. the talon was an import.

the other day i watched a pontiac montana get run off the road. it swerved to the point where it slid and i thought it was going to flip, then jumped into a cornfield, and bent the frame by using the front end as a shovel. i'm glad i wasn't that lady, some idiot played chicken with her, and she swerved ald lost control. kinda scary

yes starting frsh definitely a good thing. tsi's are sweet you can push 20psi with stock internals and be fine

Thanks for agreeing with ME everyone...

Hey Real Deal, I can never find any of those ssthookup sites that you talk about. What's the exact address?

http://camaro.ssthookup.com/ works fine for me.

What mods are on that boat? ;-)

Thanks Kevin, I'm a big retard. I read this huge list of reviews of the IS300. Everyone dogged on it for not having a manual tranny but said it was still a great car. Have you ever dyno'd your car? Ever took it to the track? A site said that your 215 hp is only good for around a 15.8 in the quarter. I wonder what kind of extra power you get from your intake and exhaust?

The manual came out in '02. I haven't dyno'd it, since I can guess from other folks dyno's roughly what it is at. My total gain should be around 15RWHP (plus or minus). But, I don't want a track car. I've seen stock quarter runs at 15.3. I've also seen (and done) 0-60 in less then the mostly published 7.1. I've also seen some dynos of stock ISs up around 220HP. Seems like once in a while someone at the factory feels nice.

I never needed, or really wanted, a crapload of power in this car. My main thing was to enjoy driving it, kill some Hondas and 3-series, and enjoy a luxury car while I can :-) Also, it's 4 door.. and I needed a 4 door car with my daughter. If I wanted a beast, I wouldn't have gotten an expensive car. My next car will likely be cheaper (but not a "cheap car"), so I can throw more money under the hood. If I go with a WRX I'd throw some money into a body kit first, then under the hood :-)

Unless I find a good deal on a hooked up Supra. I really want a Supra.

BTW.. I closed on my house in FL yesterday, so the check arrived this morning. I was looking at it, staring at it.. suddenly the vision of a Viper appeared in my head. Then, the vision of my taking the check to a Dodge dealer and getting one... then the vision of my wife kicking my ass.

i think you vision of your wife kicking your ass is funny. not to mention, you probably love your daughter more than to stick her in the trunk. your wife would kick your ass for sticking her in the trunk too.

The boat is just a cruiser. I am redoing the interior, putting a canopy, and repainting it. Only a 75hp engine.

How dare you think of a Viper! Only 500hp from 8.3 liters of V10? :|

Supra's are a much better option.

Yeah.. I know. But I really like the Viper. A Supra would be good... but while staring at the check, the Viper is really what suddenly popped into my head.

I understand. Maybe one of you imports people can help me. Does an early 90s eclipse DOHC (non turbo) have a speed limiter? And if so, what is the speed.

real deal, most likely it does have one, im not sure the speed though. on newer cars they usually fall anywhere from 110-135

Okay, scratch the DSM idea. I found an RX-7. Hoorah. The great part is, I'm pretty sure i can get it by just trading one of my computers.

black 1988 RX-7 convertible

this could fill the void of the camaro nicely.

I'm not a big fan of those older rx-7s. They look terrible but you can build a good racer out of one. Kevin, go for the viper. Who cares if your wife kicks your ass? It'd be worth it.

get an NSX , used ones are cheap. widebody kits look sweet. twin turbo's could help. and they are just all out sweet, its like the ferrari of japan. light too. good handling. viper's defintely grap attention, but a riced-out Nsx will too, and you'll save a few bucks.

A used NSX would cost around $30k here. Now that would be ok if i wanted the base car for that much, but I want play toys too. I'm still looking...and I'm swaying back to the DSMs. Lots of parts and cheap. I figure I can easily get 220HP out of a normally aspirated 2.0L DOHC. At right around 2850lbs with me in itll be quick.

I've been looking at different turbo and supercharger kits for the prelude and I can't really decide on one. F-Max makes one but I can't get real dyno numbers to see how much of an increase I can get. GReddy makes one but the turbo is pretty small and I don't think the gains are very high. DRAG makes one and uses a t3/t4 turbo, a turbonetics I think. I could live with that, since it's not too small and it's not big enough to cause serious lag. I honestly don't know enough about turbos and everything to build my own kit with various parts from different manufacturers. Jackson Racing also makes a supercharger kit for the lude and it's really popular. It gained like 70hp with an intake, exhaust and header. That's only at like 6 psi of boost. Plus, with a supercharger there would be no turbo lag and that'd be nice. Let me know what you guys think.

The F-Max kit produced 40 hp over stock at 9 psi.

Hey real deal-
Try out the SRT-4
THE power will surprise ya-
They dyno 220+ hp at the wheels stock-
Add the 16% power loss and you are talking 255 horses at the crank and 250lb ft at the wheels wich is 290lb ft at the crank-
Add the factory mopar stage 1-$399.00 and get 20 hp more at crank and 12lb ft of torque-
thats 275 hp and 300+lb ft at crank-
Add the turboneonstore.com stage 1 for $650.00 and get a better wastegate-a nice blowoff valve-a manual boost controller a nice shiny polished pressure pipe and a K&N cone filter for an even more powerfull package-
I am getting 25+ mpg average with the mopar stage 1 installed- The car is a blast to drive-
Smokes 3000 GTs - WRXs -S2000s in the quarter-
Brakes are incredible-
Search kazaa for video files - search srt-4
Find video with WRX and talon in description-
Stock srt4 smokes WRX with boost controller and a bunch of mods-Illegal street race-
He admits "that neon is no slouch"
The srt has a speed limiter set at 148 mph but hit 153 for car and driver- Motor trend stated it would do 160+ with-out a limiter- Thats stock -
The srt-4 does 0-100 in 13.9sec vs 0-100 in 16.0 for a stock WRX-per road and track july 2003 road test summary pgs 114-115-
Motor trend tested the SRT-4 0-100 in 13.5 sec
July road and track lists the followin times- Honda S2000 0-100 in 14.2-porsche Boxter-S 0-100 in 14.4sec Lexus IS300-(sorry Kevin) 0-100 in 18.9sec-The 350z 0-100 in 14.5sec- and of these cars the srt-4 is the only one to break 100mph in the Quarter for all the mags that tested it-
Plus I upped to the 85,000 mile bumper to bumper warranty wich happens to include the sweet mitsu turbo that pumps up to 15lbs of boost stock-

Oh yea-
The sweet seats are frickin awesome-
The leather wrapped wheel feels great-
Again the brakes are outstanding-They are race ready-No fade ever- no matter how big the mountain- or how long the race-
The shifter ball sucked but that was going no matter what it was like-Got a sweet carbon alluminum comfy shifter-
the car doesnt drive or feel as cheap as it is-
Its only $3000.00 more than a Neon rt pos-
$3000.00 gets you huge brakes- A pt cruiser steering culumn rack&pinion-A pt cruiser engine a pt tranny(not many reliabilty probs with pt cruisers unlike Neons)-
You get a nice mitsu turbo installed-you get a huge Valeo front mounted intercooler- You get $600.00 each cloth finnished viper seats- You get a ram-air hood- 17" wheels with pilot sport tires-
You get the leather wheel and shiftboot-some alluminum accents inside- a more agressive body kit and fascia- and about 100 horses more at the wheel- Thats a lot of stuff for $3000.00-
Looks kinda like a EVO without AWD- Add the $399.00 mopar stage 1 and the srt will run with the big dog-
Oh yea a srt-4 beat the EVOs and WRXs and even a bunch of vipers and vettes and even a lambo diablo in the 1 lap of America AKA the famous cannonball-run- The srt finnishd first in class(mid priced sedan $35,000 and under)and eigth overall beating 21 of the 27 SSGT1 cars (vipers vettes turbo 911s pushing 600hp)
The srt was beaten by 7 SSGT1 cars-Putting him 8th-The SSGT1 lambo diablo finnished 9th-
This is a 4000 mile race done in stages on the street and the track for points-A points series race-So it wasnt just a lucky race-
Oh yea the SRT-4 was on stock springs with stock brakes and only the mopar stage 1($399.00) upgrade-
HE pulled the cat and upgraded the shocks and added a lsd-Under $1000 in upgrades to smoke the lambo-the EVOs the WRXs the Stangs(SSGT2)All the SSGT2 cars-
A srt also is running first in class fwd rally-
THE SRT-4 Racing history book is being written daily-The SRT-4 pro fwd drag car took 2nd running low 9s- Search SRT-4 at sport compact car.com
Look for the drag article-

Doesn't sound too bad for a sub $20k new car. I'll wait till it's a few years old and get it for half price.

i hope none of thoes fast and the furious 12 year olds come in this room and talk bout how there car can beat every ones car here they will just end up piss us off

well, if they do, we won't answer them. i say this be a board where we (including me, the neon hater) respect everyone's car, whether econo-import, or giant musclecar, or even a dodge neon. it's been said a million times, but i'll say it again; every car has it's high points.

oh yes, how about a kit for the old shelby coupe, drop a 351 cleveland in it ... i know a guy with one its fast. its metallic blu glow i think the code for that color is 3k . uh, its nice but no AC . i heard him letting it loose leaving don barry classic mustangs. its loud. its got the chrome cobra R wheels on it 17 inch with the 10 inch wide in the back . full roll cage and 4 point racing harnesses. i think they are turnkey for a little over 30k and spank almost EVERYTHING on the road, and i imagine it has its share of roadholding capabilities for all of you autocross guys. i dont see how you can lose if you NOS it, goodbye

Dont take me wrong-
The guy driving the neon was last years SCCA world champ-sSo he was definately an ace-
And I also love all cars-Even my old POS 91 mitsu mirage with the base 1.5 motor with a auto tranny has its fun points-(E-Brake+Snow)-
I also have a Porsche 944 wich I love to drive-
My 95 Geo tracker is fun to bang gears in-
Its a POS but I love the thing-
I also have a 88 rx-7 gtu with a toast motor-
I am in process of parting it out-
I also have a 84 fiero and a ferrari body kit for it-But the motor (2.5 Iron puke) Threw a rod-
My wife has a 2001 ford Explorer Sport Trac(4 door pickup)-And we traded her 97 suzuki X90 Sport utility car (S.U.C.) for the neon-
So you can see I am not Brand specific-
And I wont go out looking for C-5s or vipers to drag race- I like praying on innocent hondas with big body kits-Also like surprising WRX and Stang GT owners(I owned a 89 Stang GT and It was a great and fun car)-I also owned a 70 challenger Rt/Se with a slightly modded 440- It was a fun car but cost to much to maintain and drive-
The Neon has been so much more than I was expecting- Even At $25,000 It would still be a good deal-Car and driver rated it a 10 out of 10 in the "fun to drive category" and I have to admit its true- After you drive it for a few days you can push its limits pretty comfortably-
And the fuel economy is great- I just got back from our cabin and drove 119 miles back and filled to check mpg- Used 3.52 gallons to get back-Driving 70-80 mph and getting on it a few times to get by traffic Thats 33.8 mpg- Honestly-
I had to fill when I got home- I had to see how much gas I used -The 119 mile trip only used a quarter tank-
The main point is its fun to drive- Thats what its all about- I dont care if you are faster or if I am faster as long as I am having fun when I am driving-
For a new car for the price you cant beat the SRT-4
But for more money you can-

Anyone wanna answer my turbo/supercharger question? Ok, you paint a pretty picture of the srt-4. I think we can all agree it's sound like a helluva performance car for being around $20k and especially for being a neon. You're going a little overboard with it though. Stop shoving it down our throats. I saw a Lingenfelter(or however you say it) 427 twin-turbo in an Escalade EXT. It's insane. It runs the 1/4 in the low 12's or something. They have a feature of it on caranddriver.com.

I would go for a turbo of some sort. They don't rob any power and if you make them spool up before you take off(a slightly higher stall...they actually makes setups that spool them other ways) it won't be a matter of turbo lag. You will get a higher per PSI horsepower increase over a supercharger, and if the lag is eliminated or reduced, the extra power will help you whoop on a same PSI supercharged setup.

i have a triple decker wing on my mercury mustang, i like spaghetti sauce on my carbon fiber valve cover. sumtimes i run nitrous into my exhaust to make flames come out and it adds loads of horsepower. i like my twin turbo and twin supercharged motor in my mustang. i run 7 psi - daily driven thank you very much :b he he. mercury makes a great car. i put nismo wheels on it to add weight and give more downforce. sumtimes i can beat my neighbor's supercharged goped to his mailbox, especially when i unbolt his wheels and handelbar and he does a faceplant into my factory mercury rocker panels. publix has a special on spaghetti sauce here in town. i g2g

---- SORRY GUYS ---
I wont talk about the Neon anymore-

Go with the supercharger for the lude-
A turbo kit will be more expensive and much more difficult to install-
Unless you pull your engine apart and change out your pistons for lower compression stronger pistons and strengthen your lower half- a high boost will toast your motor eventualy-And you need to be carefull not to burn holes in pistons-
That calls for more expensive engine mgmt computers-
Throw on a supercharger and be happy with 7psi boost -You could boost the charger with a pully upgrade if you wanted but then might run into reliability issues with the stock internals-
I am sure there is a reason they boost the charger to 7psi- Good power-gains/reliability-
70 hp at the wheel is significant-
Unless you have a lot of money go with the supercharger- If you want to go all out do a turbo-But do it right-

That Escalade is a deathtrap-
0-60 in 4.0 seconds-
Quarter in 12.7 at 106mph-
The damn thing weighs 5,709 pounds-
It has a auto tranny and AWD-Anyone could drive it-
Its like a bigger 4 door Syclone-
Some basketball or football player is going to kill themselves in it-
Thats why they should give it to me -
First thing I would do is add nitrous and put the bottles under the f-16 wings that fold for parking-
Then I would do the "change" and add the 8 foot intercooler in the bed-Wich would keep me warm when I drive up to the top of the Edge of the bottom of the East side of West ridge in Glacier Park on my way to the north pole-

Kevin-
I live in Minnesota-I know What driving in snow is all about-
Dont even try to drive the IS in the snow-
Rear drive even with traction controll makes for a white-knuckle drive in the snow-Even if you are experienced-
If you have never driven in the stuff you might not want to risk damaging the car-And the salt and sand they throw on the roads eats your car up-
The salt rusts any exposed metal and the sand chips the hell out of the paint and the headlights and the windshield- They get sandblasted looking-
Buy a winter beater-Dont sell the Lexus-
I have a snow-porsche-Wich is a 95 geo tracker-
Its a blast in the snow- Its starting to rust heavily now from driving it in winter- So dont drive a car you value in the northern winters-
I hate to see people driving nice cars in winter here- They dont stay nice for long-
The tracker is kinda a death-trap and makes me nervous about other drivers who might be driving a 3 ton 700hp Caddy SUV-
Front drive is pretty good in the snow-Just dont power around corners-Understeer is your enemy with FWD- You have the steering wheel turned but you keep going straight-But generaly you dont need 4x4-
Find a used sedan since you will have a child in the car-You might want to have a bigger 4 door for safety reasons- Just dont sell the IS-and dont drive it in the snow, salt, and sand littered road-

We don't have much snow here. We had a bad ice storm a few years back, but it usually doesn't get too snowy. The Camaro is a blast to drive in the snow when we have it. However, it is 1:06am, and is 90 degrees. It hasn't been below 88 degrees in weeks. Would be nice if we had a FREAKIN OCEAN. Anyway, weather worries aside, i now have the corvette site up. either http://www.ssthookup.com and click on the links. Or go to corvette.ssthookup.com

my buick mustang with awd (all wheel drive). gets good gas mileage on the slicker roads. i put NOS in it, and gets even better mileage. also due in part to my triple decker wing. and the nismo wheels. :D he he . im a fantastic driver on the beach. i can go almost a half mile without bogging down. then i hit the bags and it lifts up about 9 or 11 feet and that means i can go everywhere. even on my roof. he he i gotta try that tomorrow or maybe yesterday. (p.s. dont put NOS on your balls, it froze mine)

I can get the turbo kits for cheaper than the supercharger kit. And I can always turn up the boost on the supercharger, 7 psi is nothing. They're made to do 25 psi easy. No matter wether I get a turbo or supercharger I need to build up the stock internals first. 7 psi just isn't enough boost. I'm just really not happy with the selection of turbo kits out there. F-max and turbonetics are together now so maybe they'll build kits that blow the other ones away. I'd definately go for a turbonetics turbo. The GReddy kit uses Mitsu turbos...and they suck.

you guys are good at ignoring me(nismo racer zero), when i pretended to be gay. im proud. anyways, mitsubishi turbo's are getting old. are there any companies that make turbo manifolds for a universal fit turbo? cuz then you can slap on whatever you want. i agree on putting in beefed-up rods, pistons, valves, maybe even a nice port and polish job while you're in there. i hear its a good thing to sleeve the cylinders with some strong sleeves and then you can boost whatever you want. aight? . . . aight

Does any1 know where i can get a fairly cheap nos system for my 2000 Avenger? will i need new sleeves?, Intercooler? i am new on the nos idea any comments would be nice... yeah my uh Dodge (Mitsibishi) Avenger... is coming along nicely got a blitz kit, intake, 4.7k chip, some shit inside and new paint and stickers...its gonna be the shit when i leave Hawaii and get back to Michigan......well any advise on anything to the car is welcome... JC@mindless.com

my friend just got a Porsche 944 84 i think 80 something its in good condition just that stock there not that fast its a 5 speed i really like the rims its a pretty nice car but after he drove my car he wants a fiero

heres my opnion on the nitrous i wouldent get it i hate nitrous its gay all throttle no bottle is the way to go i have a stupid friend not really friend but he has a stock v6 mustang 2000 well he has a k&n filter and he thinks its suped up from that and he took out his silencer his car has like 130 hp and he thinks it has 200 well hes gonna get a 150 shot of nitrous and i know he'll blow his engine and he says all bottle no throttle well i think nitrous is a cheat

I have a 84 944-
The motor has been built -
High Comp Pistons- Cam- Balanced-
It puts 220hp at the wheels-
It also has a body kit and custom wheels-
It used to be set-up for nitrous as well but I removed It after I had to re-build the Engine-
The car is for sale now-
Its not in perfect cond-The hood is messed up and the body has some bondo from its track days-
The seats dont adjust anymore and the black paint is getting a little faded- It is running rough but just needs another tune-up-
It likes to stall untill its warmed up-But then runs strong- Its a pimped out porsche and gets lots of attention- Good and bad-
I am selling it for $4,000- I have more than that into just the head-job and the custom parts-
Its Black with gold MSW wheels-It has the 930 style boxed rockers ground effects and the rear vented drop panel effects- $4,000 in wheels tires and ground effects at the time -
But it would take some body-work and paint and some interrior work to make it right again-
I love the car but i needed a 4 door sportscar having a family and all-
I will keep my feiro ferrari kitcar untill I am old and grey then I might have time to finnish it-

no offense srt, but rwd in the snow is not really a white knuckle expirience. my parents drove rwd when i was a kid, and i was thrown into the snow with a stick rwd. once again, it's all in how you drive the car. i find it fun to steer with the rear wheels once in a while anyway. i agree he shouldn't drive a nice car in the snow, but that doesn't mean he should get a fwd winterbeater. i drove my sho once in the winter, and i was finding that a white knuckle expirience because i had to put it in neutral to get around corners not to mention, if the rear end slides, you have no control at all. at least you can choose to overrotate a full 360 in a rwd, just pull a full circle and keep going. also, a fwd has so much weight in the front that it takes longer to regain control if the front goes out. with rwd, you never have to put it in N to have the front tires search for traction. whereas everyone says fwd for the winter, that's the last thing i want to drive on the snow. the only thing is, the don't get stuck as easy because of the weight. the best is by far a 4x4, cuz i drove a couple cars over a section of curvy hilly road in the winter, and the only one to stay straight was the 4x4. the fwd spun out, and the rwd went sideways a few times, but that was fun. people can talk about how good any car is in the winter, but the bottom line is throttle control, when to push, when to release, and when to pray. hopefully you're just praying for your life and not the car, hence, get a winterbeater Kevin, it'll be the best $500 you spend to keep the IS looking good.

oh, does anyone know what happens to the stock block in the ligenwhowhaddy vette? is it stroked and boered, or replaced. i imagine that's a dumb question, but it's worth a try

i imagine you can go to www.lingenfelter.com and figure it out fiero face

I think they use the C5-r block in their 427 tt. They did with that escalade thing, and it was almost exactly the same engine as the one in the turbo vette. It's a little bit better of a block, but if you want, an LS6(same thing as the LS1) block can be stroked out to at least 427, i'm pretty sure it can go more. And a guy, what the hell. I mean really, why be a dick to fiero and why try to be an ass and increase my forum load time by a tenth of a second because you want to get us to react. I mean really, find something else to do. You're on the internet, ever thought of porn or something? Jesus

what's up everybody i am somewhat back my keyboard is being "pretty gay" it is hookedup it doesn't work at all. i am at a friends house right now. but anywayz that escalade should just be trashed. i have a pic of what i would do to an escalade. (anybody ridden on a big yellow rich school bus)

Damn guys, we were doing so good and not ragging on each other. I know one thing about driving in the snow...my little fwd does 2x better than my Dodge Durango ever did. Get a light FWD car and you can get along just fine. If you get a smaller shot of nitrous like a 50 or 75 shot you can use it in moderation without damaging your engine badly. With prolonged use you're gonna end up throwing a rod or cracking the block or something. The smaller kits like that are mostly universal and run about $500. Guy, I'm not sure about universal turbo manifold. I don't really know. I saw a 1200 hp turbo that was the same size as a rotary engine from an rx-7. It was insane.

well, it was worth a try. but they make turbo manifolds for like EVERY car so it doesn't matter. im not so sure about cracking a block with nitrous. i am sure about breaking a rod and throwing a piston through your hood. my friend told me something about a twin turbo integra on the history channel, with a 4.8 or a 4.9 liter 4 banger. anybody seen it? ? ? ... real deal, ok.

4.9 liter i-4? never heard of it. It'd be cool to see though.

cool, thanks real deal. i just wanted to know becausei was wondering if i could fit it in my car. 800 hp in a tiny car would be murdur for a car and suicide for me, but what the hey.

sheesh, the biggest 4 banger i heard of is 2.6 in some guys' izusu. that was the 4x4 i drove that didn't slide at all. it's all in throtle control. rwd works fine for me because i learned on it, i can slide decently, and even at 45 on the slickest ice and snow i have managed to do better than 4 wheel drives and fwds. (they were all doing 20 - i saw an explorer hit a cement wall at lower speeds thaght night) it's just a matter of keeping the rear wheels reasonably close to behind the front wheels, and not throttling up in turnd unless you do so very lightly. no matter what the "experts" say, it's still totally dependant on the driver's control of the throttle.

thanks for the compliment guy, but my face is uglier than my car, so until someone hits my fiero, i suggest you think of other childish and immature names to call me

sorry fiero , just lately my friends and i have been adding "face" after everything, bad habit. i dont understand stalls and 2-steps, i understand the concpet (to keep traction on your launch) but what are the actual mechanisms and functions?

The Porsche 968 (the updated 944 with the 928 style lights) had a 3.0L 16-valve DOHC inline 4(actualy a slant 4) A v-8 cut in half- the 944-S had a 2.7L 16-valve DOHC slant 4- The standard and turbo have a 2.5L - Basicly half of the 5.0L V-8 found in the 928-
The 968 with 3.0L is the largest production modern 4 to date-
A 4.9 would be a torque monster-

i understand guy
i see alot of people caught up in the moment with that sort of stuff. just remember not to be the one to wear out a fad if you want any friends. i take back the childish and immature part of that comment

dang, 3 litre. that must be a fun 4 banger.

ok, what do you people think of all the "strictly pimping" car drivers? i laugh at them because they all sit on the porch listening to music, not running with the big dogs. granted, i can't run with the big dogs yet, but at least i'm aiming, not thumping

i think i found a nice car to run with the big dogs. a guy at my church is getting rid of his 94 impalla. he keeps all of his cars pristine, and i know the LT1 still has plenty of guts left in it. i'm tempted to take out a loan to get it cuz it's in almost exactly the same condition as showroom, and it goes like crazy. the guy used to chase teens in little pontiacs who thought their cars were fast. needles to say, it was almost effortless to keep up. it's not really all that expensive either, it's just that i would have to store it for a year while i saved money for insurance. those rwd impallas are some sweet cars

A 1994 Impala SS is pretty quick. Not quite as fast as the Z28, formula, or trans am from that year, but hey, it weighs more with the same horsepower. It would be nothing to make it kick a Camaro's butt. With an LT1, there is lots to play with. It may not be exactly the same as in the Corvette(vette has aluminum heads and "real" dual exhaust) but it wouldnt take much. I think 25hp is the difference.

Jeez Fiero, there's nothing wrong with having just a pimp ride. Most show cars are like that. Some people just aren't about speed. I used to be like that before I caught the tuning bug. There's just as much pride to be taken in how your car looks and how hard your system hits, not just what your car runs in the 1/4. People are just as proud of getting their cars to hit 150db as getting their cars to run 11 sec 1/4's.

i always thought that if a car is fast, then its like a bonus, otherwise im an all show kinda guy. the only problem about most people having a hooked up system , is that they make sub-enclosures that are really gay looking and take up too much space, when i get mine its gonna be all custom fab from the woodshop, molded perfect and not just a box with subs and an amp mounted on it. go audiobahn !!!!!!!!

I would drive around a ratted out primer gray firebird, etc. if the engine was hot and the car was fast. The outside doesnt matter near as much as the inside. Make the car run, then do the details like make it pretty. That way when a kitted civic pulls up next to you, it will be nothing to blow his lambo copy doors off. Pimps rides have their place, and as long as the driver doesnt act like his car is badass, its cool. but when he revs the engine, he better be prepared for the whallop he is about to receive.

I'm loving driving around up here. Some of the roads suck, and I wince when I am drving on them.. but many are fun. Also, much less ricers from what I am seen. Of course, South Florida was ricer central. I've still seen a few weed whacker exhausts on Saturns here, but overall much more tame. Boatload of classic cars.

I used to sell Audiobahn when I worked for this local install shop. They make good looking and great performing subs... but that's about it. Their amps are also nice to look at. For true power, Phoenix Gold amps are the way to go.

I think it's great that every year the Yankees get all these players at the trade deadline and pay out so much more than every other team and still don't win it all. San Francisco got a good #3 starter in Sidney Ponson. Go Giants.

OK, i got a 1992 laser RS. the timing belt slipped and 3 pistons have holes, the head has numerous vavle damage, but it isnt a problem. the engine had less than 20k and the mechanic that installed the timing belt didnt tighten it enough..i can get it fixed cheap. anyone know where i can get a drift body kit cheap? i wont be to that stage for at least a month, but ill have it running soon. before i put the engine in, im gonna put totally new(and less restrictive) exhaust from header back to tip. Then wheels and tires(im thinking 17in white painted with YR or ZR low profile tires), and then the kit and paint. Once complete, i will redo the interior in a tasteful way. I also need an eclipse spoiler (not the wing, but the body spoiler). If anyone has any ideas, tell me.

OK, I've never done anything like this before, let alone posted on a website...so here goes, basically I was wondering if anyone, anywhere would happen to know how to remove the speed limiter from a 1993 Dodge Stealth ES, 3.0L DOHC V6, non-turbo of course. Any feedback would be appricated, thanks for your time.

you've already ask us that , and on a 93 its most likely a digital govorner so you would have to reprogram your engine management computer. but im not sure, this is a new one for me (dodge stealth)

IowaGuy, a guy is probably right. It should be pretty common information... just find someone with a 3000gt or stealth like yours and ask them...like on cardomain.com or something. Real Deal check out extremedimensions.com, they have a lot of different body kits...also try eBay.

IowaGuy, a guy is probably right. It should be pretty common information... just find someone with a 3000gt or stealth like yours and ask them...like on cardomain.com or something. Real Deal check out extremedimensions.com. They have the whole kit for $625, the front bumper for $275. Also try eBay.

IowaGuy, a guy is probably right. It should be pretty common information... just find someone with a 3000gt or stealth like yours and ask them...like on cardomain.com or something. Real Deal check out extremedimensions.com. They have the whole kit for $625, the front bumper for $275. Also try eBay.

IowaGuy, a guy is probably right. It should be pretty common information... just find someone with a 3000gt or stealth like yours and ask them...like on cardomain.com or something. Real Deal check out extremedimensions.com. They have the whole kit for $625, the front bumper for $275. Also try eBay.

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hey guyz i am in okie right now i am at a church camp it is really awesome but anywayz i have been gone for a whlie like i said my keyboared was being gay and i have $30 to go get a new one but anywayz i got to bounce just check in in cya

heh, i just got back from a church camp in illinois. anyway, i think i won't be able to afford the impalla, so i'll just save up for the work on my fiero.

iowa guy, i love how the people in your state drive, 20 over constantly, suicide passing, all that stuff.... i guess it's either drive crazy or watch corn grow. good luck with the limiter.

my SHO looked like garbage, but i could not have been more happy with it when it kept smoking good looking cars.
i just saw this on the way back form ill., but has anyone seen those spinner wheels? i hear they're expensive, and it seems obviously heavier, so i'd never get them, but what do y'all think of em?

I resent that! We don't all watch the corn grow. You do have me on the driving though. 30 over on the interstate and passing at well over 100. Oh well, fast cars and a fuzz buster is all ya need. On the sho, people hate to be beat, but they really hate to be beat by an ugly car. Spinner wheels are ok if you arent driving the Navigator they are on. Sorry, look ok in shows, but some look goofy on the road.

A guy, I couldn't have allready asked you that, this was the first time I'd ever seen this webpage, but I've gotta give thanks to MySlowAcura, extradimensions.com will be a great starting point for my stock Stealth. Another question where is everyone from? The Real Deal, what part of Iowa are you from?

I didnt read the message totally (now i did). I'm from oklahoma. On the limiter issue, Jet makes something they call the SCU 2000 for one of my cars. SCU is for Speed Control Unit and it removes the speed limiter, err, lets you adjust it. Many ECU reprogrammmers will let you adjust the speed limiter. I'm actually surprised that a steath has one.

*feels real dumb*

*Stealth

Anyone know where i can get carbon fiber altezza style lights for a 1992 DSM? I also need new headlamp housing(I would like projector style) if anyone knows of some.

I think someone should start a trend of NOT using Altezza style lights on non-Altezza cars ;-) It's no longer "different", and really annoying that everyone copies our light style.

I think a good trend would be copying the WRX and using cartoonishly large lights on cars. Be a trend setter!!

;-)

I don't like the regular white/red altezza lights on other cars...they just look cheap..i have seen some carbon fiber altezza lights that look sharp though. I'll likely keep the lights i have now or make my own custom lights, but I'm just keeping my options open. I really do need different headlights. The headlights on the car are faded an look pitiful.

i'm from michigan, just about halfway up the palm and a little to the left.

i agree, people should stop using altezza lights a little, they're all over. one of the things i hate about people who strictly pimp out their cars is that they all look about the same. just once i would like to see a truly unique paintjob, respectable wheels, and a little all around variety. i think i'm gonna try to use low rectangular fog lights in place of my headlights ro reduce profile when they pop up. i will have to use 4 of them, but it will look better. i may add some small reverse scoops on my hood for cooling and downforce(yes, it will add downforce, it will take air that went through the radiator and bring it up through the hood, not shove it under the car) i can find a convirtable conversion, and a chop top option too, and that would make my car stand out from the myriads of fieros crusing about in the summer. you can fit in with the normal looking cars, fit in with the pimpcars, or look totally unique. hopefully, you don't look stupid looking different.

This is just my opinion, but if you are considering doing the convertible thing, go for the gold. Do a 355 spyder conversion. It will spice that fiero up considerably.

hey fiero i agree with you on the altezza lights. I hope nobody in here has them. Im kinda new at this but im hoping for a warm welcome. Anyway, i like to sound good and look good, but i figure going faster than the competition is better. Im currently in the process of helping a buddy redo his 94 cutlass convertible. I think it is an alright car unfortunately we only run 400 hp right now... Any ideas! Always open to new ideas, pretty good rice burner as it is but we also look for the all around way to win.

Hey Masked... I have Altezza lights! But, I have the whole car, not just the lights.. so I'm allowed :-)

I was always a fan of clear tails but no one makes them anymore...Real Deal, check out nopionline.com, they have a lot of crap but they're pretty expensive. Pick up a copy of Super Street. Every issue is like a catalog of different retail stores.
Spinner wheels were cool but it's one of those things that get played out real quick. Every rapper is talking about them and calling them "Sprewells," since the first time most people had seen them was on that MTV cribs episode of Sprewell racing. Fuckin retards, all of them. Supposedly they own these rims that are like $4000 a piece and they don't even know the real manufacturer's name? If I spent $16000 on a set of rims I can guaranfuckintee that everyone would know exactly what kind of rims I got.

Hey Kevin I will agree with you, if you have the actual altezza i will let ya slip. My Slow Acura, I totally agree with you on the "PIMPIN" rims that these rappers got. All these rappers think they got these sweet rims when they don't know the name of the manufacturer when the manufacturer is probably actually pretty much robbing the rappers for alot of money. Anyway, i guess if the rappers can afford to spend 300 dollars on a toilet seat they can afford to waste their money on the ( Not so all that ) rims.

hey have u guyz heard about the v10 mustang made by a bunch of rogue ford engineers and stuff. it is a 351 i have all of the info if u want it. it's 1/4 time was 12.88 and that was stock

I have seen stock ZO6s run low 12s, but for a mustang that is all motor 12.88 isnt bad.

i think i saw that V10 stang in a magazine, cant remember if it was car-and-driver or road-and-track. but it looked crammed in the motor compartment, not enough room for turbo's :) ... masked? why cant you let him slip on the Is300? it doesn't have to be an "actual" altezza to have them (but it pretty much is anyway). spinners suck, they flat out suck ... again, they suck

where i found that stang is in motor trend but ford didn't actually build it. it is all ford parts but not probably going to be on the assembly line they think it might be the crate out of the f-250 v-10 350.9 ci
5.8l v-10
430hp@6500
405 torque @5500
6 speed tranny
3565 lbs is est weight
0-30 1.8
0-40 2.5
0-50 3.5
0-60 4.4
0-70 5.7
0-80 6.9
0-90 8.9
0-100 10.3
1/4 mile, sec@mph 12.88@114.44

motor trend pg. 70 september 2003

Those aren't really high performance numbers from that mustang. I'd take a z06 corvette first any day...in '68 plymouth made a hemicuda with a high end 427. It ran low 10's.

ok my slow acura hold up we are comparing a 68 with a car that isn't even in production yet and probably won't be. all i know is that cars aren't made like they used to be. i guarantee the old gto's will smoke these new ones in the 1/4. but u know what these new ones have some of the best damn handling. car makers now a days are going for comfort instead of power and speed which i think is really gay but hey that is just me

You need to realize though(as im sure you are) most newer cars have gas gears, not performance gears. I bet if i swapped out for different gearing in my vette its quarter time would drop dramatically.

i guess i will have to look for the 355 conversion, but i wanted one fiero to resemble stock, then get another one to do the body stuff on.

masked convert, i got a friend whose dream car is a good looking, loud, faster than my car, convirtable cutlass. he may want to talk to you. however, it's just a dream, because i will pump more power out of my engine, and my car will be lighter. i like the power #s from your car, but my suggestion is to put it in a time machine and bring it back to the muscle car era, when everything was rwd. but since you can't do that, just put in a hidden fuel cell and run cam2 racing fuel in it with a switch to bring it back to normal pump gas and lower any boost pressure if u have a turbo/supercharger.

aftermarket wheels are good for one thing: making room for bigger brakes

screw 351 v-10, i want that 77 ford pickup with a 460 v-8 and big tires sittin on the corner. who needs handling when you can run over everything? ok, i'll calm my redneck side down now

Got my 1992 Laser RS. Soon i'll make a page about it on the SST site. Pics, mod list, etc. Im looking at 160-200hp naturally aspirated....and then about a 50 shot of nitrous. It will be beautiful. (i figured gearing aside, with 234 horsepower this little bugger could hang with my vette...its just so tiny). i need to get rid of at least one car. ill be back down to 2 in january, my sister is buying the camaro. :D

hey have u guys heard of the 1.3 with 247 hp it is one bad ass engine reply if u want to know who makes it. it is 90 lbs lighter than most v-6 and can compete in power

i will just save u the time here ya go
there are two options but this is the best

RX-8 6-Speed Manual

MSRP* $27,200

Engine 1.3liter RENESIS rotary

Horsepower 247 @ 8500 rpm

Transmission 6-speed

Anti-Lock Brake System (ABS) Standard

Alloy wheels Standard 18-inch

Tochigi Fuji limited slip differential Standard

Sport-tuned suspension Standard

4-wheel ventilated disc brakes Standard

Front side-impact air bags & side air curtains Standard

The RX-7 was prettier. Did i mention that i like the stock tail lights just fine when i really looked at them? No altezzas!

I wasn't comparing the '68 to the crap nacho was talking about. I was just saying that I had heard that and it was something I thought was interesting. We already talked about the rx-8 on the other post. There's an old s-10 for sale here with some kind of 600 motor, like a 602 or something in it. It runs low 7's or high 6's. They want like $17k for it. I don't know if I believe the high 6's.

well if it has s 600+ cu. in. engine, i'd belive almost anything about it. that's a giant load more inches than i've heard of out of a v8. that must be a stroked 502 or something.

i'm coming back to the idea of the turbo 4.3 v6, and it sounds good to me. since it is basically a chopped off 350, i can put in a few parts made for that engine and the 350. at that thought, it should be able to crank 400 hp and good torque. a little nos later and we have somthing to be feared by the local ricers and some musclecar drivers. does anyone know of any place that would make performance parts for the olds aruora (however ya spell it) 4.0 v8? the only performance versions i found cost $20,000 and have run a few miles in an indy race. that is my other idea for an engine in the fiero

I would go with the turbo 3.4L. If you can, get the 3400 or the DOHC 3.4L engine not the L32(in the 1993-1995 camaro). The other 2 are much better. Also, unless you put a crazy cam, stout bottom end, and high boost turbo, expect around 300-350 horsepower. I've seen sites with turboed L32s that can spank a new vette, with the other engines, expect a little bit more. If you get the L32 turbo, get a jet scu 2000 to remove the speed limiter. I'm not sure about the other engines speed limiter.

you're talking a turbo 4.3L, like in the gmc cyclone?

I'm meaning a custom turbo. not sure what is in the cyclone, would have to research it.

you mean a twin turbo unless yur running the turbo off the single Y-pipe, bc duh 2 headers

I mean a turbo. On a fiero its much easier spacewise to use a single turbo off a Y. Almost any turbo Camaro V6 I have seen, they use a single turbo and a Y. You have to have a very very well built engine to justify 2 turbos. I mean really, if you are gonna run a max of 12psi(I wouldnt do much more on a 3.4L) you only need one turbo. It's lighter and the Y wont be a problem, just more flow to the single turbo.

yes acura, that's exactly it, like in the cyclones. that's where i got the idea from, i saw it in a mag i picked up when i was bored. those are impressive trucks

i'm really not impressed with any gm engines other than the 4.3 and higher. i haven't ridden in any turbo 3.4 or 3.8 gm products, so i can't really say much about them. someone suggested a supercharged 3.8, but i just can't decide. i've been told the 3.4 DHOC takes at least 2 hours of work time to do anything more than change the oil, and i taosted one with bolt-ons with my SHO. i'm trying to stay away from overhead cams, because i'm not very familiar with them, and i know that in my SHO they were supposed to be serviced at 60,000 and 120,000 miles to shim the valves to keep them from destroying the cams. i know pushrod engines last forever, and i just don't think there are any engines smaller than the 3.8 i would like to use. i'm thinking my options are: super\turbo 3.8, turbo 4.3, or 350 v8 (mfi - not throttle body). i have decided against a stroker.

tangent: evil ideas file:
the fiero has 2 spots for the exhaust to exit. the pipe comes past one, to the muffler, then comes out the same side of the muffler back to that spot, while the other goes out the other side to the other spot. idea: run a cutout when the pipe comes past the first spot, and a normal muffler with one exit out to the other, that way i can choose quiet and fast or loud and faster. i could drop in a glass pack or something to make it legal too

Every seen a grand national turbo or a trans am turbo? 3.8L turbo engines, and i believe the trans am could run 13s. Imagine what that would do in a fiero.

suddenly i'm leaning towards a turbo 3.8

i'm trying to find a pic of a wing i want to get, but jc whitney will only give me a description. it's listed under custom style wings, but it says factory style with led third light. i like the factory style, and i wouldn't mind adding more lights. i just don't want to part with money for a ricey waste of fiberglass.

Those Grand Nationals can really tear shit up. You could also consider a smaller v-8 than the 350...like a 305. The 305 I had in my camaro wasn't bad. If I had ever put money into
building it up it would've been a fine motor.

Well Fiero I just personally think that you should make up your mind. Granted it is good to look around and find info on all different types to find the perfect engine but c'mon almost every time you post messages you are talkin about different engines. However, I do agree with you on the gm Aurora 4.0 v8. I agree that this is a good engine. GM Engines are very good engines. Knowing what I know about the cutlass 3.4 DOHC with bolt ons though, im gonna need hard proof that you beat one with a SHO. I do know the speed of a Taurus SHO and I know how they operate and run but I also know how a Cutlass with bolt ons runs! ~~~~ Not wanting to start any arguements but just like to keep things straight if possible~~~

I just traded my slow Acura in for a Jeep Grand Cherokee. I'm not an import driver anymore... it's sad. One day I'll be able to afford to buy a car and start building it up. I think the jeeps have decent potential for a heavy SUV. They make superchargers and shit, so we'll see what we can do with it.

i know, i know, i really should make up my mind. i don't really care much for the 305. i've heard that they really don't produce as much power as they should. then again, i hear poeple say that about the 302, and i know like heck they fly, my bro-in-law has a mustang gt, and whatever he has in the car with him is like lightning: flying through the air and never in the same place twice. anyway, it doesn't really matter. i just have a need to feel unique or fast, so i figure the 4.0 or the 350 is the way to go. the 350 is not unique, but i know that has huge potential. now i just gotta find parts for the 4.0

i'm not really a chrysler product guy, but a good set of aftermarket axles, suspention, and big tires really adds to the look. and there is a ton of stuff for the engine, especially if it is the 4.0 L6. need that rock climbing torque man! good luck with your american suv and work hard for that next import.

the cutlass didn't have too many bolt ons, and he had 2 other people in the car, and the top down. i beat him good, even with tons of crap in the trunk. we raced through this s-type curve that my car hung on to better (neither of us had suspension work done). gm v6 engines dissapoint me without forced induction, and a friend with a 3 liter normal tarus took out a z34 lumina. well, time to go to bed and think of other engines to put in (ha ha ha)

It has the 4.7 v-8. I can feel decent torque but I'm sure the hp numbers are a bit disappointing. There has to be some kind of supercharger or something...I haven't even looked yet. They need to make a jeep with a Hemi in it. I think they plan to put one in a durango. Durangos suck. I had one for like 8 months. I hated it. Too big and ugly.
I'm working on putting a decent system in it now. Nothing too extreme, just a deck, amp and 15" sub. Any suggestions?

Well Fiero, I agree with you on the 4.0 it is a good hard working engine. I haven't heard of anybody who has ever had trouble with their 4.0. The 350 is a good way to go to but then you talk about a lot more work in providing space for it. I know a fiero you have limited space.

Granted Fiero I do like the Cutlass but when you get it loaded down you really gotta watch what you race. Especially if you don't have that many or that good of bolt ons.

I believe the story of the 3.0 Taurus taking a z34. Those cars are fast but not that fast. And the thing I like about the Taurus is that they are pretty decent off the line. Of course nothing compares the power boost after the take off!

~~~ And when I say nothing I don't mean other cars I just mean that it is good for a regular 4 door sedan ~~~

what about the GM 5.3 V8 , or the 4.8 , they are newer motors , and they are for the trucks so it would probably be a pain in the ass and after that, you might have garbage. my stepdad has an old '89 sierra that he could sell me , it has like 210k miles , 350 , AT , i think the AC is shot, its 4X4 , and has big tires ... but if it was mine it would end up a lot like this monster http://www.cardomain.com/member_pages/view_page.pl?page_id=295618&make_type_query=make%3DGMC&model_brand_query=model%3DSierra&tree=GMC%20Sierra what do you guys think ? im 15 so im gonna need some wheels soon. he might give it to me for 2k-3k he bought it for 5k , but it needs drivetrain work

ha ha! he called that a monster. dude, all that is is an el camino with an attitude. trucks were made to work hard or play hard, not scrape their frames off on the asphalt. if a truck ever scrapes on the asphalt, it better be because you broke something jumping that big set of railroad tracks nearby, or you ran over a really small car in a turn and flipped. a real truck can go through heavy vegitation and mud. that thing would get hung up on an m&m, and i don't mean peanut. real trucks aren't geared for speed, real trucks can tow your house (and i don't mean a trailer). not to mention, that guy needs much help when it comes to tires. trucks should have big chunky tires that hum when they come down the road, not a strip of rubber glued to the rims. also dude, don't get that truck from your stepdad unless you have oodles to spend on the problems. drivetrain can be expensive, the engine will need a rebuild by the time you save the money to do that to it, the front ends go out fast on 4x4s, the list goes on. in short, if you go for a lowrider, get a rwd truck already low or stock and a winterbeater. don't screw yourself moneywise, it really sucks(that's how i ended up with a parts car).

if you can run over my car.... you might have a real truck. if you can't clear an original m&m....... you might have a waste of money. remember folks: trucks go up, cars go down.

i haven't really looked at the 4.0 engine much, so i wouldn't know how much smaller it is than the 350. with the overhead cams and all, it might be just as hard to work on. i figure when i need to change the plugs and stuff, i'll just drop the engine and lift the car off. lots of work, but i love the car.

i hate to advertise, but has anyone tried that z-max additive? i actually saw my mileage increase considerably. no power gains like they say, but the engine is really old too, so that probably has something toi do with it

Don't dog on people just because they like lowriders. We're supposed to be open minded, remember?

I just bought a Pioneer premier deh-p850mp. It's pretty nice. Fold down face, silver/brushed aluminum finish. I also bought a 15" Audibahn Immortal sub. It has 4 voice coils. It should hit pretty hard. I also bought an amp. A 1200w Profile clarus. It's not as nice as I was looking for but it has decent power for a not too high price.

the winters down here in florida are like , not winters , so the winterbeater is out of the question. i think i can bag it for like 400 bucks and not worry about those m&ms . its a lowrider, i dont care about losing the front end . i cant count all the times i hear about jacked up f150's and blazers rolling over . so im staying with the low approach.

i dont know what to say about that stupid comment with the "strip of rubber glued to the rims", i prefer the much less noisy low profile stance .
i found out its only the rear end that needs work, and the motor is still roaring, but the ac is shot ... maybe after year one, a new motor can be dropped ... if i decide to keep it ... it will have at least a 427 .

The interior of the DSM is halfway done. I've been working on it constantly. the only hard part now is recovering the front(and only) seats with ebony vinyl pleather and installing the reverse glow white guage faces. With the interior done, now I will do the body when i pull the engine. Some sort of orange paint and white 5 spoke wheels sounds good. Suicidal timing belts are a bitch. 3 pistons with holes, several broken and bent valves, and a hole in the head. Ouch. I found a guy on ebay that will sell an engine with like 35k on it from japan for around $650 shipped. After the paint is done, I'll put one of those engines in and do the exhaust, intake, and about a 40shot of nitrous. I think with just the bolts on before nitrous I can pull at least 165hp from the crank. In a few months I'll tear that engine down and do a little more in the engine. Forged pistons and rods. Performance street cams and port and polish the head and intake.

ok, i'm redneck, so i'm just concerned that you called that truck a monster. however, whatever floats you boat is whatever you will do, so i have no right to complain about that. it saddens me to se a truck that way, but that's no biggie, there are plenty of larger trucks to go around too. as for the rims, i just don't like huge rims and tiny tires, but some people do, hence, they put them on their cars - i can't complain, people don't put them on my car (what i just said almost makes sense - who would want to give me a set of rims?). i would still recommend a rwd for a lowrider project cuz the front end will stay together better than 4wd. but, i guess you could take really good care of it and it would work, and you really would need the 4 if you drop in a bb.

and yes, big trucks roll over - driver error or someone else doing something stupid in front of them. that's what roll cages are for. not to mention a huge iron tube bumper on an off roader is a must - plows over small trees, and saves your life if you fall asleep on the highway and roll into a big tree...... like my brother-in-law

what do you if your integra is a 5-speed manual , and you break your wrist or arm or something ... wouldn't that suck

You have to learn to reach across your body and shift lefty. I'm sure it sucks, but I've seen people do it before.

it's really not all that hard to shift lefty. just put your knee into the wheel, reach across quickly and shift, then return to driving position. if you drink something hot in the morning and forget to put it in your left hand before dirving, you learn rather fast. switching coffe (yeah, i can't spell) quickly is dangerous, much as holding it is holding it between your legs. yeah, my s-10 has no cupholders. without lefty shifts, it can get painful rather quickly.

How does a 270hp non turbo and non nitrous engine sound to you guys? Add to that the 40shot of nitrous i ill be adding and imagine it in the DSM @ 2600lbs.

>:)

Oh yeah, 2.0L 4g63.

doesn't sound bad at all...

How does 18 inch racing hart c-5's, tucked under an '85 maxima wagon sound to you guys? V6 with drop, tint, exhaust. its pretty tite

Hey guys, just wanted to tell you about my car show page. Went to a local car show and took pics of some of my favorites.

http://www.ssthookup.com

theres a link on the main page!

you guys are getting boring, im lookin at lexus Sc300 's . pretty good deals out there. $7k for a 1993 loaded. i like the turbo capabilities too. rear drive. but like almost all of them are auto(major thumbs down) . and then drop the shit out of it and throw some nice 20's on http://www.wheelmax.com/Wheels/gianelle/10flush-chrome.htm like these. ya . oh and your website sux major dick, get a real job.

Why would i want a real job when i can just sit back and enjoy myself? Money is not a problem.

Oh yes, and I would like to state in all totality what many of us already knew, you sir are an ass and make an ass of yourself whenever you have the opportunity. Perhaps you will be able to give intelligent comment sometime after you hit puberty.

Yeah, this site is dead. I'd have to go with Real Deal on this one...I'm all for an sc300, but you're not gonna get one. Just a little bit ago you were talking about an '85 maxima wagon, so...I don't much respect your opinions after that. You don't even have a driver's license yet, do you? Don't talk about pimping out cars...get some nice shoes so you can pimp out your heel-toe express. Ask the bus driver if you can put some 20's on her ride since that's what you'll be pimpin.

i guess... welcome to the website of the dead. oh wait, that's the dead website. we have all lost our open minds, but that doesn't mean i don't agree with real deal and slow cherokee. walmart has cheap shoes dude, unless you get em' on sale somewhere else.

the website's ok, but i like to open new windows once in a while when crusing the web, and i can't open a link in a new window with your site.

i think i can find a 5 spd for my s-10, and i need the overdrive because of all the driving i do. the fiero has no averdrive either and it's killing my mileage. i can get 23mpg max stock. now the little buttmonkey is vapor locking in the warm weather. i think it's time to put the starter and a 5spd in the s-10 and tear down the fiero as a project car. the latest engine i found and have considered for more than 32.8 seconds is an edelbrock built gm 350that makes 410 hp carburated. i would put in an aftermarket injection system and a few very small bolt-ons (wether they will make the car go faster or not is not really my concern, they help with efficency and durability). now i just gotta find someone with the trans.

I'll take that into consideration. I just got back from installing white reverse glow gauge faces in my friends mustang. Took a little while but i guess the darkness didnt help much. Got em cheap on ebay for like $35 shipped. Work great and glow green or blue. If anyone wants some his name is
redlinezone.c0m . Despite the similarity to my ebay name, it isnt me. In fact thats where i got the idea for my newly changed name.

I'll take that into consideration. I just got back from installing white reverse glow gauge faces in my friends mustang. Took a little while but i guess the darkness didnt help much. Got em cheap on ebay for like $35 shipped. Work great and glow green or blue. If anyone wants some his name is
redlinezone.c0m . Despite the similarity to my ebay name, it isnt me. In fact thats where i got the idea for my newly changed name.

I like white face guages but I don't like when the whole face lights up blue or green. I think it's played out. I like the look of those platinum escalade copy guages. The face is a white with a silvery tint and the numbers light up blue. I don't want to sound like a retard, but what exactly does dsm stand for?

DSM stands for diamond star motors, the acutal "company" that makes Plymouth Laser, Mitsubishi Eclipse, and Eagle Talon. . I believe it was a joint venture between mitsubishi and chrysler. Laser, Eclipse, and Talon (which are the same car with different logos, etc) are DSMs (along with the galant VR4, but for most purposes only the eclipse clones are counted). When the second generation of Eclipses and Talons came out, they stopped the Laser. THe new eclipses are mitsubishi and not DSM.

i make an ass out of myself? just shows how much you know about asses. since yur always gettin yours dominated by some drunk hobo for coffee money. ...
i was talking about my friends maxima wagon. i can get the sc300 now if i wanted too but, i still have a year to look around.
and all the shit about me walking, i have a moped so no need. just cut the shit, i can run 45 all day long and 0-45 in like 23 sec. thats my baby.

nice moped. when i was your age (4 yrs ago) i had what they called a bycycle. this was like a moped, but no engine, therefore, i got exercise instead of turning into a fat slob. i could go from one side of the city to the deep ghetto in half an hour and make it back out with my bike still under me. mopeds are for lazy hobos, bycicles sre the way to go for the non-licenced. dude, you will look back on this website someday and notice how much you learn when you grow up. you really don't have to talk trash to get your point across.

hey, you can ask anybody that knows who i am , and they'll tell you im nowhere near a fat slob. im 6 foot 130, and im a weak,skinny bastard that knows a shit load about cars, and school. and i live in the largest city in america according to city area. :) and i live all the way down in rich-people-ville, not that im rich or anything. a half hour drive in any car wont get you to the ghetto.

welcome to the weak skinny bastards who know cars club dude. at 6'3 and who knows how heavy, i failed school. that must suck living in a huge city. i prefer to live away from fruits and nuts of the city, it lets me drive faster.

lol i live in a medium city good ole wichita,ks i am 6ft 180 not skinny definetly not a fat slob and i am on pedal power and i have a couple of cars but i still love riding my bike. i payed as much for it as i did one sub in my room though lol (300)

jacksonville is the largest city by the way

nice, mustang lover
i got a bike that expensive stolen out of a closed garage once. if i had the money for one, i would go out and buy a specialized mountain bike with all the extras. of cours, that costs over $1500, so i'm never gonna get one. rock on pedal power!

by the way, nice choice of car to like, but which type do you like better, 5.0 or 4.6?

i would have to say the 4.6 because it is cheaper on insurance i am only 19 not married high risk driver. but on my bike if i sold it i could get easily 1500 out of it i have the gyro the new one that is built into the neck (750) but hey i love my bikes even though this isn't bike wishlist i can still talk about them. speaking of bikes i am thinking about getting a honda crotch rocket. i haven't looked into them much but i want one for some strange reason.

Get a CBR650. They haul ass. Might be a little too much bike for someone who doen't have much experience. I've wanted one for a long time but my driving record is terrible and the insurance would slaughter me. You wanna talk about high-risk? Try 3 tickets and an accident on your record. If I was to be listed on my Jeep with full coverage It'd cost me $560 a month.

i understand the cheaper on insurance thing. i too am a penny pincher (at times i splurge). i like the 5.0 because it seems to have more torque. a girl at the last school i went to said her mom's gt with a 4.6 couldn't roach the tires, but my bro in law's 5.0 gt can roach the tires easy as pie. cbr650's are very dangerous for an unexpirienced driver. i might get some old heavier 600 sooner or later when i feel like saving money on gas.

sheesh cherokee! how big were the tickets?
i imagine insurance would kill me if they knew about my one and only ticket. i just gotta stay out of trouble now. my friend just got his old vw totaled by a van (not his fault). from this guy i bought the things that made me smile tonight: 2 gallons of 10w-30 amsoil, a dual oil filtration kit with one bypass filter cleaning down to 3 (or there about) microns, and 4 of the largest filters to fit it (two full flows and two bypass). the full flow should hold about 1 quart of iol, and the bypass should hold about a quart and a half of oil. if i put this in the right spot, it will be like adding an oil cooler, especially if i use one of those heatsink collars. i hate to be a sales testimonial, but if you're not using the stuff, find a dealer and talk to him about it.

i am actuall thinking about getting a suzuki gsx 750 i am good on bikes and crotch rockets and dirtbikes and anything with two wheels. this bike new is gonna run me pretty high for a crotch rocket 7,999 but hey this bike hauls so much ass lol

suzuki is the best bike to get, but i hate the name so i would get honda. 4.6 sounds like 3 times better than a 5.0. this guy in my neighborhood has a 2000 mustang gt with headers, h-pipe, and strait piped it from there at a muffler shop. it sounds so nice. 5.0 is more capable of high horsepower and a lot easier, but 4.6 is more reliable and efficient (if it wasn't they would still be putting in 5.0's) . anybody see the thing on spike tv with the turbo F-150? it had a single turbo on a 4.6 with a 5 speed, spun the tires in 3rd... pretty nice. what the hell? my 18 year old friend has 8 tickets and 3 accidents , he drives an integra gsr, pays 180 a month. i think he has like 2 points on his liscense. he took the classes

HOLY CRAP ITS BEEN A WHILE SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE!! How have you guys all been? I got a new computer cuz my other one ate shit one day and I completely forgot about this site (no offence). Well, the MR2 is still running strong and I'll be waking up in about 6 hours to go down the a local speedshop to get my boost controller put in. I'd put it in myself but wires need to be connected in the ECU and I REALLY dont wanna screw anything up. The stock PSI of the mr2's is only 7-8 PSI and with the boost controller I will safely be able to boost it up to 15 PSI. Anything higher I should only run for a short time. Whats new with all of your cars? I bet you guys have gotten a lot more done than me lately. God I'm lazy. I need to lay off the KFC popcorn chicken.

well the only thing i have done to my truck is added exhaust headers, a stereo system and a 2 inch lift and towing package, and i am thinking about getting a supercharger for it but i have no clue where to look. 02 dodge ram 5.7l hemi. 4x4 bad ass truck i love it. i payed 15000 from my uncle only has 14000 miles on it.i got a great deal (only cuz my uncle is rich lol)8 cars a water heated garage floor that is bigger than his house
holds 12 full size trucks with 3 feet inbetween each and it is 20 feet long
like 80 wide
it is fuckin hug lol

If you want a motorcycle, get a Suzuki GSX1300R, otherwise known as hayabusa. I've heard they only go 195mph, but I have seen slighly modded ones doing 200mph+. For only $9500 new (suggested retail is higher but they dont really cost that much) its a hell of a deal. I don't like the older(94-98) 4.6L, but the new on isn't too bad. The DOHC 4.6L is even better.

o ok . i downloaded a video on kazaa of a supra hangin with a modded hayabusa, like a 850 horsepower car being slightly outrun by a bike. roll on start on the highway. from street start the bike would have raped him. its called "car vs. motorcycle" on kazaa. i went 65 on my friends dirtbike it was scary, i wouldn't go over 200 mph on one even if you gave it to me.

If you had the money, those Tomahawks or whatever from Dodge would be a blast. Viper V-10 on a motorcycle. Supposedly goes above 300 MPH.

when it comes to bikes, the hyabusa is definitely the way to go if you're looking for speed. i knew a guy who had a fat brother with a hyabusa, and that thing still got him going faster than a raped ape.

guy, my bro in law has a 5.0, and with the stock exhaust, it still does the american v8 blub blub blub rumble. the 4.6 cars have quieter exhausts or something.

welcome back strictly imports! the site died down and out almost totally, so few people with cars and money are talking anymore. i just need the money, and i've finally settled on an engine: crate 350

when it comes to bikes, the hyabusa is definitely the way to go if you're looking for speed. i knew a guy who had a fat brother with a hyabusa, and that thing still got him going faster than a raped ape.

guy, my bro in law has a 5.0, and with the stock exhaust, it still does the american v8 blub blub blub rumble. the 4.6 cars have quieter exhausts or something.

welcome back strictly imports! the site died down and out almost totally, so few people with cars and money are talking anymore. i just need the money, and i've finally settled on an engine: crate 350

im not saying at all the 5.0 doesn't sound good, but the motor has more of whinny tone to it, and with good exhaust system it screams. if you put a good exhaust system on the 4.6 , it has more of a pop-pop sound. that tomahawk sounds literally insane

Hey anyone have new quarter runs or anything?

It better be an insane bike for $250,000. It looks more like an open-wheel car. The tires are fucking huge and the bike is about the size of a small car.

I want to run my Jeep in the quarter. I read about an older Grand Cherokee with the 5.9 in it that runs mid 10's. I read that the newer ones with the 5.2 (like mine) run between low and high 16's. That's pretty good for an SUV with a motor built for torque.

I found a website that had the quarter mile times for every production car in the last 20 years or something. They went with each different engine and everything. I wish I could find it... anyone know of any site like that?

Hey peoples, its been a while since I have been on. I have had all kinds of computer troubles lately, but now im on my laptop and I love it. Its good to be back and hearing what people have to say. It is sad to say though that this site has gotten worse since I have been on last. C'mon people I don't think we need to curse to get our points across. If you want to curse go outside and hit your finger with a hammer, then its ok to curse but I don't think we need to be doin it on here. Fiero, long time no chat, anyway, I think the crate 350 is a good engine. Im glad you finally came up with an engine.

Well, today I got something very important to me, an L36. It's a buick 3800 series II (from a 96 camaro with 53k miles). Included computer, wiring harness, mounts, sensor, all accessories, exhaust back to right behind the Y..its got everything. The fun part will be installing it in my camaro. Just swapping engines will give me 40hp..not counting the offroad pipe and dynomax super turbo muffler. Once I get it all installed and make sure all is well, I think I will get headers, rebuild my transmission(and add a shift kit), and put some sort of limited slip differential in my rearend(while rebuilding it). The rear end is a 3.20 something gearing right now which is better than stock V6 camaros that came out with the L36, they had 3.08. Being lighter with better gearing I think I should make short work of them. (unless they have the Y87 package...3.42 gears...crap...)

Well, today I got something very important to me, an L36. It's a buick 3800 series II (from a 96 camaro with 53k miles). Included computer, wiring harness, mounts, sensor, all accessories, exhaust back to right behind the Y..its got everything. The fun part will be installing it in my camaro. Just swapping engines will give me 40hp..not counting the offroad pipe and dynomax super turbo muffler. Once I get it all installed and make sure all is well, I think I will get headers, rebuild my transmission(and add a shift kit), and put some sort of limited slip differential in my rearend(while rebuilding it). The rear end is a 3.20 something gearing right now which is better than stock V6 camaros that came out with the L36, they had 3.08. Being lighter with better gearing I think I should make short work of them. (unless they have the Y87 package...3.42 gears...crap...). Oh yeah, $610 shipped.

I thought you were selling your camaro?

I'd like to get rid of my 4.7 and put one of the Shelby 5.9's from the earlier Durango R/T's or a new 5.7 Hemi. It'll never happen but it'd be cool if it did.

I was getting rid of it, but since I started in the DSM I decided to sell the vette(since it would get whooped by the DSM). If I don't have the vette, I would still like to have 2 cars. My sister can deal. She can buy another car. My uncle (the one with the shop) is thinking about putting a hemi in his avenger. It would be a task, but I bet the avenger would fly afterwards. I'll tell you what would be absolutely cool, putting this L36 in my DSM. It'll never fit..well..maybe...but 200hp no mods couldnt hurt.

i consider all efforts listed above as a complete waste of investment in time, money, and it shows a significant lack of intelligence. that motor is garbage, the mitsubishi is garbage, and about the transmission with the larger gears being lighter ... idiot. ... avenger? you guys are making me laugh now, you dont invest good money into an old, non-valuable, wore out avenger.

The L36 engine is an awesome OHV V6. Note OHV, and 2 valves per cylinder. 200hp is bone stock, restricted exhaust and all. If I put a different cam, expect a large gain in horsepower(and cams are cheap). I don't consider it to be a waste of time, money, etc. The L36 is an awesome replacement for the high mileage(and in need of a rebuild) L32 in the car. Lower mileage, better engine design, and more horsepower(with more options for upgrades) seems like a great plan to me. I didn't say the gears were lighter, the car is. The gearing in my car is better than a base V6 (96-?). As for the avenger, he has a 1999 avenger, low mileage(im sure under 60k) excellent condition car. He would consider a 345(+)hp V8 a great upgrade for his current V6. He would have to make it rear wheel drive, but big deal. It would run with corvettes for the most part. My uncle doesnt care about the money(this is the guy with the diablo replica in the works..) he just has fun :)

Oh, one issue I forgot to address. The DSM ("Plymouth") isn't garbage. How many 13s 4bangers would you consider garbage? Granted it isn't totally complete, trashing it because it's a mitsu is silly. A 4G63 has loads of pontential, but most of what I am doing is in the heads. Matching(and porting and polishing) the intake to the head and the head to the headers is a start. Pushing the valves out(bigger valves) and getting a different cam is also a great change. If i can find different pistons, I am going to change the compression into the low 10s. If I can't find them, I will get the head milled out a little. For the exhaust, header to offroad pipe to racing muffler(bigger pipe with a tip in this case). With 100lbs dropped and safety out the wazoo(racing seats, 5pt restraints, and a halo), it will be a safe, pocket rocket. Now really, does this sound like garbage?

*cams

ok, you're talking about changing compressions and stuff so you arent a gay ricer punk. i respect your "plymouth"??? now. DSM ( Diamond Star Motors , = Mitsubishi ) . you threw me off with the dsm. but, you have to admit, you are still talking about an avenger. i dont care if you can eat vettes up for breakfast lunch and dinner, its still just going to be an avenger

Just so there is no confusion, I called it a plymouth because it is a plymouth laser, which is a DSM, which is a mitsubishi by any other name. I'm still wondering why the crap they sold them under 3 different names! I can't wait for the new mustangs to come out. They are gonna be pimp.

well, after a long time of being away, it's good to be back. guy, i don't think you understand cars. everyone mocks me for my car just because it is a fiero. the fact that it's lasted long does not make them respect it, and being slow and worn out because of that does not help. however, they will all stop laughing when i get done with it. then my "just a fiero" will proceed to leave their v-8 s-10s cutlass 442s and stupid minivans in the dust. then they will realize that my "just a fiero" will really be "that one you don't want to race for money".

yeah, the tomahawk is physcho. i might get to work on a dodge viper soon. if i beg enough, the tech center instructor may let me drive it across the parking lot.

i may be starting a car to sell soon. i have a 88 beretta that needs a new engine. what i would like to do is put on headers, an exhaust, cam, polish the heads, and put on better intake tubing and maybe a ram air, all on a 3.1 v6. it's a slow engine, but it lasts, and that should bring it up to 200 hp (guestimate) realitively cheap. might sell well too, especially if i sell it to some white wannabe riceboy.

I finally found an engine for my cutlass convertible. The crate 440 Edelbrock engine 440 hp it looks to be a great engine. And I have talked to my engine and car gooroos and they have said that they should be able to fit in my cutlass. Now all I gotta do is get the money for it and redo the electrical ,exhaust, and air intake to accomodate the v8. Can't wait till I get this engine in and workin.

sorry but the fiero and the avenger are two totally different cars. fiero's have a reputation of being modded out by rednecks and motor heads that are attached to their 350's. avengers are ... not in that category.

I read about a 1990 Hyundai Excel with a modded 4G63 from a Galant VR-4. Same block as in your Laser. If you're not going turbo, consider higher compression, maybe into the elevens. The block is sturdy and could handle it easily.

I think I can speak for everone and say that Guy, you're an idiot. You always have been and always will be. Every week you have something stupid to say and you get ripped for it every time.

amen brother cherokee! guy, it's the priciple, not the car you dunce. anyway, i need an honest opinion people. i may be getting rid of all cars but one project fiero, and i'm doing a little shopping before i go out and buy one. i decided to look at imports (who am i and what have i done with me!?), and i was wondering, what would be the beeter choice of a mitsi/dodge, 3000gt/stealth; 3.0 dohc v6 or the twinturbo 4 banger. i have a while to think, so that means plenty of time to change my mind

If you are asking which engine, they are both 3.0L DOHC. But, get the turbo V6. 320hp over the 222hp they come with stock. They are fast. THe only problem with those cars is that they are still FWD. One of my friends used to date a girl with one (he had a Z28) and he said the 3000gt just didnt take off as well and steered kinda funny. Maybe he was just used to the Z.

People make their 3000gt's run 11's easy. It's a great engine to build off of...high displacement(for an import), decently strong block and stock turbo. Sounds good to me. You could probably find a Stealth for cheaper than a 3000gt though. The turbo models are also quite a bit more pricey than the NA models. All stuff to consider. Good choice.

I just bought a movie called "Thunderbolt." It stars Jackie Chan as a mechanic in Hong Kong who helps catch a Yakuza crimelord by street racing against him. The bad guy breaks out of jail and kidnaps chan's sisters so that he'll race against him. The acting isn't very good, but the action sequences aren't bad and the racing is great. It's hard to find a better movie with so many JDM racers. FTOs, GTOs, 3000GTs, Evos, Skylines... It's great. I bought a copy of the DVD off of eBay for $9.99. It supposed to be the english dubbed version but I don't think they ever made that version, so...
I thought about importing an FTO here. With shipping, it was only like $23000. It would definately stand out. Too bad america didn't get FTOs. We got DSMs instead, which are completely gay in comparison to the FTO.
Kevin, or anyone else who lives in New England/East Coast, what octane is the fuel up there? I heard you guys get like 93-95 octane pump fuel there. I wish we got that here.

Hey guys whats crackin, anyway fiero I have heard alot about those 3000gt's. I have heard alot of good things about them. However, fiero you have always been the big American Car guy! Whats up with changing the idea of your project fiero and going to imports. If I recall right, basically as a muscle, power, type racer the imports were always looked down on you as not the ideal racer. Now im not tryin to make a fight or arguement im just curious, Why the big change?

Ok, I have the DSM site up now. You can view it by visiting http://www.ssthookup.com

there is a text link on the main page talking about the non turbo DSM. I included several pics.
Enjoy and give feedback!

I think you should leave the stock wheels with the missing hubcaps and leave the original oxidized paint job. It would make the car a real sleeper.
I'm just kidding. Sounds like it'll be real nice when you're done. I hope you're skinny if you're really gonna get those racing seats. On the site, it says you're gonna get your seat covered in pleather. Which one is it?

well, to answer the curiosity masked convertable, i test drove a good condition mitsi eclipse for my neighbor ('97 gsr - na L4, 5spd) and my father's words came to mind: "you should really get a nice car instead of wasting your money on these old peices of junk". i only think i'll take part of that to heart though. here's the deal: i'm going to a tech center and will be looking for a job to do any work on cars after the first semester, so i'm gonna need tools. i figure i can take out a decent loan, buy a nice looking car, sell all cars but one fiero and after it is all payed off, put together a fiero - frame up - and have a kick ass car. i always thought stealths looked alright, and twinturbo is just plain fun. i'm not really gonna put much into it to make it go faster, just something to look nice and ride nice. then, after depriving myself of my beloved american power, i will return with a vengance to splatter all who doubted the fiero.
about the only other car to catch my eye would be an SHO, a grand prix gtp, or a camaro or other suped up american sports car. the problem is that tons of people have gtp s and fast mustangs. if i got an SHO i would forget the fiero and put a supercharger on it for close to 500 hp, and it's hard to find the right car. i still love the american power, but i think i will see what imports have to offer
(so i know how much power i need to waste them)

let's just put it this way: it won't be my ideal racer, just my ideal economy car

To answer your question, both. I'll need covers for the seats when I decide to order them, and I don't like the looks of the covers you can buy for them. My uncle has the trim shop, so I figure he can make awesome covers out of pleather and style them to the rest of the car. Luckily, I am skinny...for now....Fiero, as far as imports, you with a decent 350 in your fiero, you could waste 97%+ imports around. I have never ever ever ever been beaten by an import car here. They are all sucky (kinda the inspiration for building the DSM, lightweight with mid 200s hp = corvette killer). A 3000gt or stealth(i prefer 3000gt..just looks a little better to me) would be pretty fast and are nice cars though.

Uh, there isn't any Eclipse GSR. If it's not turbo, it's either an RS or a GS. If it's Turbo but front wheel drive, it's a GS-T. If it's turbo but all wheel drive, it's a GSX. I think. Or it's the other way around. Not really sure.

A car that is turbo and awd but is an automatic pisses me off. It just makes me sick. "Let's put top-end technology in a car but make it affordable to lots of people. And let's slap on an extra 600 lbs transmission and transfer case and ruin the true essence of the car. Then, even though you get no added performance, let's make it so you can shift between the 4 GEARS yourself and hit the shitty 6500 RPM redline on your own. Let's call it a sportshifter, to hide the fact that it's really a sportREDUCINGshifter."

all i know is the eclipse is fwd and normally aspirated, and one step below the turbo. my neighbor constantly screws things up, so he probably gave me the wrong letters.

yeah, i'm just looking for the speed, and i figure an attractive fast car should hold me over until the project is complete and rises from the garage to a reborn ass-whoopin' life

i fully agree with the shifter rantings cherokee. DEATH TO AUTOS IN SPORTSCARS!

hey real deal, i did a little research, and the turbo stealths are 4wd. after 94 they had a 6 speed(instead of 5), and all the turbos had 4 wheel steering. that's probably why your friend thought it steered funny. the turbos are also supposed to go from 0-60 in 5.2 seconds. i think that will make an all around good winter/summer car and still hold it's own in a street race, not to mention, cart all the friends from point a to point b left to find their own ride by the fiero.

a funny thing happened to me the other day; i was driving through some puddles for the entertainment value (driving the s-10 here), and suddenly i heard a crunch and scrape. it happened to be the muffler fell off an got wedged between the axle, ground, and hole it punched in the bed. now i have a new bent muffler and a loud truck. need..... credit......for......loan

That makes sense. It just would be dumb to make a turbo AWD eclipse and not make a turbo AWD 3000gt(the better car). That muffler thing sucks.

GS-T is fwd . GS-X is awd. both turbo. auto is for wanna-be's. 3000gt's are heavy for imports. the twin turbo's have sweet top-end to make up for it though. my friend bought an old CRX and stripped out everything except for the dash and two seats and it was dam fast with stock motor. he wants to do a rwd conversion. i think with a boat load of motor mods that thing will be some real fun.

I like to read Honda Tuning and they're making an AWD Integra GS-R. They took the drivetrain from a Honda CR-V. Crazy, huh?

I lost out the bidding to my Thunderbolt DVD. Fuckin eBay. So now, the only way I can get the english DVD is to pay $16.99 instead of the $9.99 from before. Pisses me off. You guys should check it out. I've seen it on TBS at like 2AM a couple of times. It's worth staying up for.

What happened to everyone?

my apologies, i haven't been online in a while, so i dissapeared eaisily. that's odd for honda, any drivetrain other than front wheel drive. that will be a car to look into when it comes out.

yeah, my muffler thing sucks, but not as much as what happened a couple days ago with the fiero. 6:00 am, going to tech center, i hit the brakes and saw bright red in the rearview. a dense cloud of white smoke was reflecting the light from the third brake light. i almost soiled my pants stopping and getting out of my car. after removing my lunch and tools from the front, i grabbed the fire extinguisher and opened the back to get out some very expensive oil filteration products.
tune in next week to hear the rest of the story

ok, ok, just kidding. it wasn't on fire (relief)
no flames was a good sign, so i pushed it into the nearest parking lot. later i discovered it was tranny fluid, and that some insulation over a nylon\rubber line had held some dirt and stones and wore a hole in it. it was pouring directly onto the exhaust. that was the scariest thing to happen to be in a long time.

i think im gonna get an MR2 turbo, and my buddy danny told me about an all-wheeldrive integra in orlando . sounded pretty tite. i would rather see an integra with an s2000 motor and tranny conversion to rear wheeld drive.

i like the s2000/integra idea

i guess i wasn't kidding about the tune in next week for the rest of the story part. i wish someone had told me how flammable tranny fluid actually was, because then i would have gone to the quarter wash and cleaned out the engine compartment. 2:00 am sat morning..... turned out to be saturday mourning-for-my-car. i was on my way home from hangin' out, and a friend was driving his car to my neighbors house (my neighbor was in my car with me). well, it was (of course) several days after the tranny fluid accident, and all of it had burned off (or so i thought. we were playin' around, but not doing much over 75 when he hit his brakes, so i passed him. about 5 seconds later, he starts flashing his headlights like mad, so i turn around and look for smoke. well, the was no smoke because 60mph brings enough air to a fire to burn everything completely. the 8 inch flames however, 6 inches from our heads freaked the crap out of me. i hit the brakes and slid it off the road, but not into the ditch, the whole time telling my neighbor to get out when i stopped. i jammed it in park, grabbed my jacket, and jumped out the window (this means i left the car running, and i bumped the signal when i jumped out). my neighbor and i ran to the other car and called 911 on 3 seperate cell phones. the first one didn't make it to the police station, the second got a busy signal, and the third finally got through. i told the operator what was happening an where i was, and she said i had to be transferred to another department. when i tol