you all are a bunch of lesbian assholes and you like the anal

And 'shane' chimes in, proving assholes are abundant. Thanks for proving my point.

hey it does suck that there's ignorance out there, but that's part learned stupidity, part genetics
They just don't know any better and probably won't ever

From one vegetarian to another, NO ONE likes when someone else pushes their beliefs on someone else. Acting like you are better than someone because of the way you act or think is a true sign of an asshole. So before you talk trash about other people you should take a look at yourself. I've been a vegetarian my entire life, I've never once tried to push my views on anyone, and if someone wants to consider themselves a vegetarian even if they eat fish "occasionaly" I see no harm done. Perhaps they are in the final stages of giving up all animal products. I know many people have to remove meat from their diet one step at a time. Maybe by calling themselves a vegetarian it strengthens their beliefs in a non-animal diet. One last note, I HATE when a food is labeled vegetarian just because it has vegetables on it (such as a vegetarian pizza). No one ever calls a cheese pizza vegetarian!!! Ahhhh.... drives me nuts when people say "hey look, they have a vegetarian *****" when it was vegetarian to bhegin with. Did that make any sense?

I use to be a meat eater. In october of last year, due to health issues, I became a vegan. However, I am very unhappy with my food choices. I don't however, want to add dairy and eggs back into my diet as they were the main cause of my health problems. I do however want to add fish back into my diet. Not daily but once or twice a month. According to Kevin I would not be a vegetarian. Would I be a meat eater who only eats fish? I think saying to people that I am not a vegetarian would be more confusing then telling people I am one. In fact, so many people assume that all vegetarians eat dairy and eggs which isn't true either. I repect you for your ideas and for not eating meat b/c it harms the animals. Do you not eat honey cause they kill the queen bee? Just food for thought. Nice readings thanks for all the intresting comments.

Hi Melissa,

If you eat fish, you wouldn't be a vegetarian. You would be someone who "only occasionally eats fish." Calling yourself a vegetarian would only a) confuse people who can't get it straight, and b) cause the confused people to think people like me do eat fish.

The main difference between a vegetarian and a vegan is that vegans don't eat ANY animal byproducts (dairy and milk). Vegetarians can eat these things and still be vegetarians. If you don't eat them, then you are vegan. The difference between the two is pretty simple.

There are MANY great vegetarian cookbooks out there. And, there are many products on the market which are meat substitutes (made of soy). I eat vegetarian hot dogs, burgers, ground "beef", "bacon", "chicken", etc... all made of soy products. The taste is obviously a bit different (less greasy), but the textures are the same in most cases. You may have to experiment with different companies to see which you like best (I like Amy's products the best). You can also get plenty of frozen meals for lunches and dinners. Just check the labels for the 'vegan' ones if you don't want any diary. For cooking, use soy milk and soy cheese.

So, don't fret Melissa! There is some good food out there for you to eat!! If you need help finding recipes, or products, feel free to let me know.

Kevin
So then what your saying is that I am without a lable. I am someone who eats fish once in a while but doesn't eat, red meat, swine, poultry, dairy products or eggs? So if I go to dinner at someone's house wouldn't it be easier to tell them that I am a vegan? And not even mention fish? Thanks for the food ideas, I have tried them. I own a lot of cookbooks (I also went to culinary school) about being a vegan/vegetarian. I know the drill. Thanks for your input.
Happy eating
Melissa

Hi Melissa,

Yes, saying you are 'vegan' would be easier. That is, if the person knows what a 'vegan' is. My experience is that you would then get questions like "So, you don't eat chiken?... How about fish?" Then, it gets complicated because you eat fish, but called yourself a vegan. You could just say "I eat seafood, but not other meats or dairy." Since, that is the truth. If you need to, just say "I mainly eat a vegan diet", then you aren't calling yourself vegan, just saying you follow the diet (mostly).

But, no matter what, from my experience the questions will always follow about what you do eat, and why. So, may as well explain it with more words than a label ;-)

It doesn't help to yell at the absolute idiots who eat fish or chicken/fowl (i even knew a guy who only ate red meat and said he was a vegetarian). tell them they aren't vegetarians but, pescatarians (fish eaters) or pollotarians (chicken/fowl eaters) or even omnivors.

Next time, I'll do just that. Think if I say they are moronivors they would get it? :-)

I don't eat any meat so I don't think my opinion is bias. a person that follows a vegan diet and only occasionally eats fish would be best suited into the "pesco vegan" label rather then vegetarian. of course then there are arguments that vegans don't eat flesh so pesco vegan is incorrect. what about "semi" vegetarian? sounds good to me.

SOMEONE WHO ONLY EATS FISH (NO OTHER MEAT, SUCH AS COW, CHICKEN) IS CALLED A PISCATARIAN. NOW YOU HAVE A LABEL FOR YOURSELF! JUST THOUGHT YOU'D LIKE TO KNOW. ; )

I am doing a food technology project about vegetarians and i just wanted to know, can any type of vegetarian eat meat substitutes like vegans and lactos if you are able to email me back with the answer i would be very grateful

I'm not vegetarian yet. But i'm going to be soon. My transformation started several years ago. Now i totaly throw out red meat and in last two months also chicken, turkey and white meat. Still i eat fish once a week but will cease till the end of this year. The main reason i decided so is my personal "decision by consciouss", actually awareness of not doing any harm to animals. (have any of you ever seen slaughterhouse?). I must say it was hard to me cause i've been eating meat since i know for myself (it was my dark period). But now i'm willing to succeed. I don't sermonize that be a vegetarian is specially healthy and that it should be the reason anyone become one. Actually if you take a look of what vegetable choice exists today you will hardly find any geneticaly non-modified plants. Companys won't tell you how much chemicals they use for production and also how they influence on human brain and organism. Have you ever eat for example an apple from wild tree in the land, that is small, ugly, full of specks and probably with a worm inside OR do you prefer big red "all the same" from your local store. If you did not, believe me i would give ten big for a small one. What i want to say is that to be a vegetarian is great challenge. It asks to reflect of yourself and requiers big change in your life. Not anyone can accept and achieve this. Most people go by the line with fewer resist and they don't want to discomfort.
The people who decided to change need to be encouraged. So it is not a good idea to argue about who is or who is not more or less vegetarian or even vegan, and so lose any creative energy.
It is important to sprawle the idea behind.
It is important to support people who produce natural food in their own small farms.
It is important to convince the profit oriented companys which produce vegetables or fruits to go for less profit change toward natural process.
It is important not anxiously or angry discuss
our attitude with others. (just smile and change subject or walk away).
It is important to share knowledge and information between and support vegetarian groups all around the world.
It is important to know that to be truly vegetarian is FIRST STEP to clean your mind and reach higher conscioussness. It's not an noble "enlightment" propaganda. this is personal
choice.
(from my experience today I'm very happy with myself now and i will never regret my decision).

Feel free to comment...

Reading the comments on here has been very enlightening. I consider myself a Piscaterian and with all that I’ve read the panel seems so hung up on the actual title of what people eat, and not so much on the good that not eating meat does for the environment as-well-as our well being. Vegetarian, polloterian, Vegan, Piscaterian it doesn’t really matter what you have chosen to cut out every little bit helps.

Yes, Tamara, you are right. But, we are a society of labels. Unfortunately, most people are too dense to know what constitutes "meat"

"I don't eat meat"
"Do you eat chicken?"
"No, chicken is meat"
"How about fish?"
"No, fish is meat"
"Ham?"
"You're an idiot"

The label should help people, but doesn't. And certainly doesn't help when people misuse them. I generally, these days, just say "I don't eat meat", and go through the line of questions I just mentioned.

i've been vegan for a year and a half. i don't eat any animal products, buy animal products, or buy products tested on animals--my main issue is the life of the animal, as opposed to the death of it. for the animals in traditional slaughterhouses, the death is the relief. if the animal is raised organically, it can be done on a smaller scale (better for environment) and with full care and quality of life for the animal.
i would encourage any of you who are thinking of going back to one kind of meat or who are weaning themselves off of meats/animal products to buy organic products--at least then the game is being played fairly.
and kevin: maybe an animal doesn't have to be "FUCKING MURDERED" for you to pour milk on your cap'n crunch, but she does have to stand in an area much too small for her body, get injected with hormones or remain pregnant constantly (thus infecting your cap'n crunch with estrogen or bringing more animals into this world that will have to be murdered), sleep in her own shit with a machine attached to her udders, and rarely see the light of day because of how crowded the barn is with other cows in the same predicament and the fact that the dairy farmer doesn't make it a priority for her to go out and get exercise or enjoy the fresh air.
unless you buy organic.

Hi Emily,

The last line you said says it all "unless you buy organic". It's not hard to find local farms (which may have milk sold to local grocers) which don't treat the cows in the manner you discuss.

We all do the best we can. I'd find it hard to believe anyone in our society doesn't wear, eat, drive in, sit on or otherwise utilize something not made from an animal or somehow caused the death of a being. Wear cotton? It was sprayed with pesticides. Use oil? Most cars have leather somewhere in them. Finding (totally) non-leather shoes isn't very easy. Wear wool? Eat Jello? Honey? Etc...

No matter what we do, we can't be perfect in being a vegetarian or vegan.. and we do our best. So, I do use local milk from local farms, but I don't turn down a bowl of Cap'n Crunch when offered at a friends house because they may not do the same.

I am SEMI - VEGETARIAN. this means that I am Not a vegetarian , but I can´t be considered a omniore as well. I gave up all my red meat after discovering how cruel killing this animals ( specially in factory farms ) can be. I still eat fowl ( they die easier because they have less body mass than a mammal ) and because I love fowl and its much more healthy to eat fowl than Mammals. I am NOT a pseudo vegetarian because I do Not claim to be a " vegetarian " while Im not. Im what I am, a Semi - Veggie. this is considered by most at a transitional state, but I believe this will be my whole life choice.

fruitarian, In think this is the rarest type of vegetarian. a fruitarian is even more radical than Vegans, because they don´t eat any vegetable food obtained by the death of the plant. this means, only fruits, fruit like, grains ...

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You guys think that just because you're vegetarians, animals aren'tbeing murdered and dying because of your diet? Millions of animals every year are killed in wheat and soy harvesting combines. Enjoy.

Hi nunya, please point to your resources for that data.

hi,
i consider myself to be a semi-vegetarian due to the transition of always being an omnivore ( complete meat eater.) some people may feel threatened by the fact that semi-vegetarians still consume meat but the word SEMI means PARTLY which considerably describes one that does not eat red meat and pork. for those of you who do not like it, look up the word semi in the dictionary. in order to communicate properly, the term "semi" is used to describe something that is in "part of" ect. at least there are people that choose semi-vegetarianism! sorry vegans, but that is how a person is labled that doesn't consume "all meat!"

hi,
i consider myself to be a semi-vegetarian due to the transition of always being an omnivore ( complete meat eater.) some people may feel threatened by the fact that semi-vegetarians still consume meat but the word SEMI means PARTLY which considerably describes one that does not eat red meat and pork. for those of you who do not like it, look up the word semi in the dictionary. in order to communicate properly, the term "semi" is used to describe something that is in "part of" ect. at least there are people that choose semi-vegetarianism! sorry vegans, but that is how a person is labled that doesn't consume "all meat!"

I think it's great that so many of you have given up some or all animal products. I was a vegetarian for several years until I saw the film Peaceable Kingdom by tribeofheart.org. and thereafter became a vegan. (By the way - I feel a whole lot better and was surprised how much of a positive effect giving up dairy had on my body - not to mention my conscience.) Peaceable Kingdom is hands down the most luminous and beautiful film I've ever seen on the topic of why people choose any form of ethical veg'nism. If any of you ever wished for an easy, non-confrontational or preachy way of explaining why you've chosen the lifestyle you have - this film could help.

You seem like a really nice person (not) you really are a self righteous sonofabitch aren't you. I do not eat meat, I do not class myself as a veggie but say "I do not eat meat". Other people usually consider me to be a vegetarian when I say this but I am actually a piscatarian as I eat fish. When filling in a menu option (for a works do etc) there is only a box to tick for 'vegetarian option' so that is what I tick as I would rather get absolutely no meat or fish than risk getting a pork or lamb dish!! I tend to keep my eating habits to myself - my best friend in all the world never knows what to give me to eat bless her and she usually resorts to cheese and biscuits - that's fine by me - the trouble is that meat eaters haven't a clue and think that veggies and piscats only eat pulses and soya beans. I would suggest you are a bit more tolerant to other people - I am usually the first to admit that I am a 'pain in the arse sort of veggie person' and afterwards 'actually I'm a piscatarian'. At least meat eaters are learning to ask 'do you eat fish' if faced with a vegetarian. Do you swear at people who dare ask you a similar question.

You seem like a really nice person (not) you really are a self righteous sonofabitch aren't you. I do not eat meat, I do not class myself as a veggie but say "I do not eat meat". Other people usually consider me to be a vegetarian when I say this but I am actually a piscatarian as I eat fish. When filling in a menu option (for a works do etc) there is only a box to tick for 'vegetarian option' so that is what I tick as I would rather get absolutely no meat or fish than risk getting a pork or lamb dish!! I tend to keep my eating habits to myself - my best friend in all the world never knows what to give me to eat bless her and she usually resorts to cheese and biscuits - that's fine by me - the trouble is that meat eaters haven't a clue and think that veggies and piscats only eat pulses and soya beans. I would suggest you are a bit more tolerant to other people - I am usually the first to admit that I am a 'pain in the a**e sort of veggie person' and afterwards 'actually I'm a piscatarian'. At least meat eaters are learning to ask 'do you eat fish' if faced with a vegetarian. Do you swear at people who dare ask you a similar question.

Hi Andrea,

Do you think fish are made of leaves? Maybe they are made of grass clipping. No, fish are MEAT you moronic clod. When you said "I do not eat meat" you are lying. You do eat meat, you eat fish. So just say "I only eat fish", which is the truth.

I don't swear at people who ask me if I eat fish, I swear at the idiots who eat fish, then tell someone they are vegetarian.

I have maintained my eating habits for the past 15 years.....these habits are fish,fruit, and vegetables. I eat fish because "I" feel that this is a natural source of abundance put here on earth for us to live on.
I am not an extremist! I dont condemn those who eat meat because we all have something in our lives that one may not like. I can only live for me.
If you feel that a certain way to eat fits your life style "and" you wish to title it...so be it!
Last Note: I am a "Brotha" I dont call myself "African American" because I am not an African born in America. You dont here white people saying "I am European American". I dont speak African...I aint never been there...so if we are talking labels...I am a "Brotha" born in the U.S. living a vegan,vegetarian,pesco, whatever you wish to call it life....Thats for you Keven.

The name is Kevin, not Keven.

Didnt mean to spell your name wrong sir......i like your site though. I like to read peoples comments and/or opinions about things we have issues with.

No prob.

"I do still eat these byproducts because an animal ISN'T FUCKING MURDERED to get me some milk to put on my Cap'n Crunch".

Actually if you consider the fact that the most inhumane practice of all forms of animal agribusiness is the production of veal, and that veal calves are male calves that can no longer be used in the dairy process, drinking milk leads directly the their murder.

You see, dairy cows need to be impregnated (artificially inseminated) to produce milk, otherwise they dry up naturally (just like people). If their calves are female, they join their mothers in the horribly inhumane process of milk production. If they are male, they are considered "useless". They aren't the same breed of cow used to create steak or burger meat, and they can't produce milk. If within their first 48 hours, they are not slaughtered to make dog food, they end up as veal calves...teathered by a short rope in stall so small they can't even turn around or move...fed a liquid diet until they become anemic and finally slaughtered after about six weeks.

Enjoy your Cap'n Crunch...

Thank you for your comments Kevin - somebody has to say them. Unfortunately it's "fashionable" today for people to call themselves vegetarians. It seems to go well with their designer clothes, meaningless tattoos, and pop-culture-inspired piercings. Hopefully the fad will pass and those who truly don't eat any meat won't have to deal with many more of these brainless sheep. Yeah, sheep that eat fish.

OK, 3 things:-
1) There is no difference between eating a dead bird and eating a dead fish. If you eat dead animals, and YES that includes fish, you are NOT a vegetarian - in any form - stop deluding yourself.
2) Fishing is the single biggest ego-logical disaster in the World. EVERY ocean has been overfished to the brink of extiction. Omega-3 pills, fishoil supplements are no exception. 90% of ALL large marine animals have dissappeard from the oceans in just the last 50 years. It is morally and ethically WORSE to eat a wild fish than a captive breed cow. Unless you catch a fish with your own pole you are supporting the most ecologially destructive industry in the world - Fishing. Do your own research!!
3) To the uneducated person who seems to think eating dairy products doesn't invlove killing animals. Where does the milk come from - cows which are kept permenantly in a state of pregnancy/suckling. And guess want happens to the calf in order to keep your milk flowing - VEAL.

So don't adopt a cool label that doesn't apply to you - just be honest. If you eat fish, but no meat then there is no label - you simply "don't eat meat". If you eat dairy products - fine, but don't try and claim it doesn't involve the industrial killing of animals.