And he likes Python too of all things.

This is very funny!

Maybe you shouldn't be so easily offended.I mean, what kind of place do work with standards like those? Remember, you *do* work with this guy.

Maybe you shouldn't be so easily offended.I mean, what kind of place do work with standards like those? Remember, you *do* work with this guy.

In my attempt to be a smart ass, I posted twice. So don't think that this can't happen to you!

In my attempt to be a smart ass, I posted twice. So don't think that this can't happen to you!

I eat raw meat too. I wouldn't say I'm as sloppy as this guy, and I certainly don't try to make a public spectacle out of it. But personally I think vegetarian philosophy is highly flawed. Also many cultures have been doing this for centuries(Ethiopians, Koreans,French etc.). I guess they're all idiots too. Suprisingly, they have been able to promote their gene pools, without tapeworm taking them out. Maybe this guy is related somehow?

Lighten up and try to open your mind a little!

Godbless,
Anwar

Oh, and not everyone is convinced with the germ theory. Look up Bechamp's theory of disease.

No, the Ethiopians aren't stupid. The French and Koreans are. But, that's another topic. People have also cannibalized for centuries, and drank urine, and fucked farm animals, and murdered in the name of 'God'. So, what's your point? How many grocery stores with thousands of food items are in Ethiopia?

How is the vegetarian philosphy flawed? Too many carrots will give you x-ray vision? You also forget that in many cultures which raw meat is a DAILY part of their diet, they are introduced to it from birth (mothers milk) not at 30-something years old. And, it isn't ALL they eat. This is ALL this moron eats.. raw meats. But, if I cared to do minimal research, I would find that tapeworms and other desieses arose throughout history... and not from eating too many tomatos. From early man who ate raw meat, got tapeworms, then spread it to the animals which ate their dead bodies. This isn't science, it's fact. Just because we live in the 21st century doesn't make eating raw beef, fish, eggs and poultry any safer. Hopefully, he will graduate to raw pork soon.

And, I don't need to lighten up because I think eating meat is equivalent to a sin. And eating raw meat in a public eating spot in a work place is offensive.

You can take your theories and eat them too. Eat a completely raw meat diet and you can get very ill. Salmonella doesn't read Bechamp's theory. Bodies need to be gradually introduced to new germs so the body can learn how to deal with it. Get too many, and you get sick. Don't take medications, and you can die (a common cold can turn into pneumonia if untreated, and is a powerful strain) I'll stick with Pasteur, thanks.

Hey buddy - I'm planning on eating raw meat also. I'm not going to cite historical retoric, but I will tell you that cooking degrades food. In addition, Dr. Mercola MD, (yes, a licensed medical doctor) says that salmonella is not a concern if you eat a healthy diet (meat and vegetables, no grains or refined sugar). I'll bet you're one of these idiots who claims to be a vegetarian and eats pizza and chocolate cake. Now that's a sin. Complex Sugars and highly refined carbohydrates will turn your "temple" body into a diabetic, obese, pile of horseshit. You need to do a little more research there, chief.

Josh, first thing.. vegetarians can eat pizza and cake. VEGANS DON'T HAVE ANY DAIRY BUT VEGETARIANS DO you fool. God, you morons get me so irritated. Did you know there are MDs who believe voodoo works? Probably went to school with Dr. Mercola.

Enjoy your tapeworm, and thanks for cleaning out the gene pool.

Here's a nice way to end this utterly pointless and idiotic debate: Shut up, all of you :D

Z0PharX is right. Kevin, this argument you trying to present about eating raw meat will cleanse the gene pool is flawed. Even you must understand that at some point in history raw meat was eaten as a primary source of food. Early civilizations lacked the luxury of heat to cook meat, let alone a reason to cook the meat. Now had these early civilizations contracted tape worms and become 'cleansed' you would not be here to rant about this embrangling bullshit today... now would you.

Point being: Get a fuckin life d00d. Eat some Wendy's!

Neophit, do you know the average life expentency of those in 'early civilizations' (i.e. pre-fire) was? It was like 20. They also didn't brush their teeth, use soap or toilet paper. If you want to live like a prehistoric man, go ahead. I'll use that newfangled modern technology called fire/heat to cook my food. And, if I'm lucky I'll live to be over 20.. oh wait.. I am over 20!

Raw meat isn't healthy to eat. It's not even healthy for dogs, let alone people. I'll stand by my statements.. and the majority of modern science.

-Sigh-
You're missing my point. I am saying that eating raw meat will not cleanse gene pools.

Sure it will. Being on that diet is moronic, and when enough morons die, less morons will be reproduced.

Okay..germs do cause disease, the native americans were in great health and still succumbed to "white disease".
on the other hand, white disease is so horrible becuase of the many diseased (but living, YAY we lived to be over 20 while diseased!) people that serve as colonies of disease, this allows long periods of time for diseases to evolve and spread.
so introduction slowly IS important, if you start a raw meat diet, include fresh garlic, and take hydrochloric acid with your meal-its in your stomach already anyway.
vegetarianism however, i believe is basically more of an emotional issue than anything for most people involved in it-thats why they can't look for the truth rather than media hype....ps most vitamins are fat soluable...how much fat is in vegetables??

for all you arguers with vegetarians, stop
they actually become psychotic due to the lack of vitamin b12 in thier bodies to support their nervous system...they are very confused by all the false crap the media puts out...and need to be looked upon as a sad product of government/corporate manipulation

vegetarianism_will_cleanse_the_gene_pool, apparently the plan is to go for the gay people...who shouldn't have to be persecuted once again!

ENZYMES
number one reason raw meat can't be bad...enzymes from raw meat are in everyone-passed down in the womb and through breastfeeding, its been proven that basically the more enzymes you have the healthier you are..
you can't get enzymes from cooked food, so everyone's genetic line at some point had to have eaten raw foods(and meat)
THERE'S NO OTHER OPTION!
Futhermore, apperently the closer the raw eaters are to you on your genetic line, the healthier you are!

raw eating is like starting a fresh lineage of health

good luck and spiritual blessings,
melissa

Sugar is more disasterous than many diseases...as well as refined carbohydrates...pizza and chocolate cake.
In fact all cancers are aneorobic and feed off off of sugar(ferment), this is an attempt of the cell to survive in conditions where oxygen isn't as available as it should be and suger is abundant.
This is ignored in america but was proven by a nobel prize winning scientist.
Everyone knows they cause diabetes as well.
Okay, thats it I swear!

Melissa

Safe ways to consume raw meats?

So if I want to start a raw meat diet would I need to only eat organic meats like free range chicken and buffalo? Would I need to marinate the raw meat in spices to make it safe for eating? Thanks!

Let us not assume raw meat causes this man's poor dress habits. I have heard every healthy culture eats raw things - usually including raw meat. (How, i'm not sure....anyone know?)

Eating all raw will definitely slow down your aging process. Japan where people OFTEN live past 100 feed mostly on raw fish. Anybody who takes in count lifespan of prahistoric man in account should realize that most of these people died by being eaten by predators. Of course there are benefits and risks involved but not any higher than eating a cooked burger at Mc Donalds touched by a guy who didn't wash his hands after he used a toilette.

Eating all raw will definitely slow down your aging process. Japan where people OFTEN live past 100 feed mostly on raw fish. Anybody who takes in count lifespan of prahistoric man in account should realize that most of these people died by being eaten by predators. Of course there are benefits and risks involved but not any higher than eating a cooked burger at Mc Donalds touched by a guy who didn't wash his hands after he used a toilette.

(I vehemently condemn all inhumane treatment of any animal being raised for food - such as the practice of beating, burning or hanging the animals - whether they are dogs, cows or any other animal. Some of the practices of the veal (and poultry) industry in the United States are also inhumane, and I condemn them also.)
Chef James

Damn, Melissa mail me with more of your statements and or ideas found something quite interesting in your comments I would like to further explore. Also raw meat eater for as long as i can remember. (long story) So far i've had no problems or serious illnesses that would suggest causes being due to raw meat consumption. No it's not a diet of pure meat yet for a good idea my steaks rarely come to me past rare =). Settles the stomach, and makes sleep much more enjoyable. mail at tibiaowns@yahoo.com

I don't even remember how I found this site, but I just want to say something about what was said on 'early civilizations'. there were no 'civilizations in the 'pre-fire' stage. but I know what you mean. however those humans at that time were quite underdeveloped. I believe the people here are talking about the humans we come to know here in our time(2000 BC through now). The statement on the japanese diet was a very good example. Actually the japanese(as a whole) are now losing years off of there adverage life because of their adopted habits that 'raw' is bad.
one place that is still going strong with the 'raw' philosophy(did i spell that right), is Okinawa, though they do eat some cooked food.

I would also like to say that raw meat is not bad for you.....or at least my family. My father has ate raw meat his whole life, and is very healthy.
After considerating what a doctor said he had many tests do to his extra large appetite(also a family thing). The thought was tape worms as well as the other possibilities that I still am not as familier with. anywho, the tests revealed that not only was there no parasites or disease, but that my father was one of the heathier people that the doctor had ever seen, next to some wounds from the millitary.

just thought that I would share that with you all. I don't mean any disrespect or to insult. I just wanted to give some 'food for thought'(lol...ok that was too much). anyway, whatever it is that you eat, I think that you should just be proud that you are eating it. appreciate your food. Don't worry if others don't like what you eat, and try your best not to care what they eat. However, if you can't find a reason that you ONLY eat the food that you do, mabey you should try some other things. Like with my situation with my father. I eat raw meat everyonce in a while, but I also like my Veggies. I also have nothing against vegitarians or any other type of 'eater'.

thanks, and sorry for the length of this post,
hope you all have a great life and all,
peace out,

narrow eyes -_-

p.s.
did you say he likes python.......lol

The inuits (eskimos) eat raw meat. Raw meat even contains vitamin c which apparently is destroyed during cooking. As far as I know, one gets all the essential amino acids, fatty acids, vitamins and minerals one needs from raw meat.

We need to understand that at the time when cultures were (or are) eating raw meat, the animals themselves were different than they are now. There was no pollution or chemical pesticides. Animals have their own mechanisms to fend off disease. When animals are fed grain, which is a human idea, animals get sick with E.Coli and other such diseases. A good rule of thumb is this... If it did not exist 1000 yrs ago, dont eat it. Many of the foods made today are foreign to our bodies, and our bodies react in a defensive way. For example, it was noticed that the white blood cell count rises dramatically following a meal with cooked food. This is not present when raw food is eaten. White blood cells react to a pathology that is a risk. Am I a doctor, no. Do I have a degree in nutrition, maybe. I do have a brain filled with common sense. Mankind's technology has come as a double edged sword. As with everything in life, it comes with a price.

Man can survive on a range of foods.
Raw meat, vegies and fruits have been around since the beggining. Processed grains have only been in use for 10,000 years. Without question, countries who base a large % of their food on cooked or heavyly processed foods suffer from a greater amount of 'western' diseases. Although becoming less and less, their are communities around the world who live free from these diseases and credit it to their diet of raw foods.
Eating raw meat is more a phycological barrier than a physical one. Raw meat actually digests more efficently than cooked meat of all types. To overcome this simply drink raw goats milk insted of raw meat. It tastes the same as supermarket milk but has the benifits only found in a raw animal product.
For more info:

www.mercola.com
www.spartanhealth.com

or look for the book 'we want to live' by
AAJONUS VONDERPLANITZ, an interesting story of how he saved his sons life by feeding him raw animal products and raw honey.

or please feel fee to contact me to discuss this topic further.

Eat well - whatever that may be to you.

Kevin Finnan, Sydney , Australia.

I was eating some raw beef when I read this. I'ts not a usual event for me, but I felt better eating a lug of dead cow than I would about consuming any fast food or packaged snacks or bubbly chemical drinks.

My friend had a grapefruit size cancer tumor
in her abdomen. She was terminal. Given one
year to live. Tried chemo, didn't work. She
started on a raw foods diet including raw meat.
She has been on this diet four years now and is
cancer free and only eats raw. I do not eat raw
meat except fish. If I had cancer, after seeing
her results I would be on that diet in a flash.
Just a thought.

WOW Burp! I just ate a whole cow as a baseline experiment and you know what. I do feel a little bloated and queezy. next week I'll post again after eating a whole cooked one (if im still alive)any one wanna sychronise watches?

I was born with a serious genetic condition called Grave's disease. For the last several years I have battled it with many therapies, and a couple of months ago discovered the raw/paleo diet. I began to eat all raw, including my meats, and my condition has appeared to have completely cleared up. The most exciting thing is I have been able to gain weight, which is a real miracle with my condition. It is good though to eat cooked meals a few times a week, it has been found to increase energy levels when done in moderation. A good yahoo group to join concerning raw diets is live-food. Also, check out the site: http://www.rawpaleodiet.org/

Well I was a vegan for three years, and I am just coming off of it now, I will say there are valid points to being a veggie, and an omnivore, when I was a veggie, I thought I knew it all, but the more I read, the more I realized that I don't know everything about eating meat. I will say this though, I will never drink milk, to think that we require milk from a different species, is so ridiculous, and vegetables are our blood. Wheat is a very questionable food. In my opinion, we should all avoid wheat, it appears to be the cause of many of our health problems, and associated with all of the auto immune problems.

Raw meat rocks!

Stop fighting, keep an open mind!